Online Poker Forum - two hands i sruggled with

nolan6 · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: two hands i sruggled with

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 500/1,000 Blinds, 125 Ante, 7 Players
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Hero (SB): 16,133
BB: 14,857
UTG: 20,270
UTG+1: 15,883
MP: 9,262
CO: 37,717
BTN: 18,860

Pre-Flop: (2,375) 8 Heart

8

dealt to Hero (SB)
5 folds, Hero raises to 2,000, BB raises to 14,732 and is All-In, Hero ?

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 600/1,200 Blinds, 150 Ante, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): 18,758
SB: 15,357
BB: 19,270
UTG: 17,758
MP: 46,604
CO: 15,235

Pre-Flop: (2,700) K Spade

6

dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, Hero raises to 2,400, SB folds, BB calls 1,200

Flop: (6,300) 6 Diamond

4

5

(2 Players)
BB bets 6,300, Hero folds

Results: 6,300 Pot
BB mucked and WON 6,300 (+3,750 NET)

G Goddard · Four of a Kind Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 279

I'd make my raises a little bigger. Maybe 2.2x-2.5x. The rest depends on player stats.

dcdoorknob · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:36 am Post subject:

You can't fold the first hand. It's BvB and 15 BB effective stacks, 88 is huge there. If you think he's really passive and won't reshove on you with worse, just open shove it. I think giving most opponents the chance to shove it in when behind has merit here though.

2nd hand def. depends some on reads, but I'd make it more than a min raise (maybe 2800 or so) pre if you are raising. On the flop I think I'm just shoving it in readless. Again, in the 15 BB range its pretty hard to fold a top pair good kicker type hand. Go with it.

Lostrichaments · Banned Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 30

Pretty much agree with dcd. The first hand is usually an immediate open shove against the average passive opponent. The only reason I'd minraise or open for 2.5 would be when I expect an aggro villain to shove over the top, in which case it's then a snap call.

The second hand is either a fold pre, or raise small and hope for folds. As played, the villain flats and you flop top pair so it's time to stack off.

bleffo19 · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject:

open shove first hand. we have a low M, and his is even lower. i like jamming here. as played you have to call. he is really short so his range should be quite wide, which our 88 crushes.

2nd hand - you could open-jam from the button if the blinds are tight/passive. otherwise i think i just muck this pre. no need to get involved with stacks that should be jamming over a standard BTN open with a marginal hand. looking at the stack sizes in the blinds should really influence when and what hands you decide to open with in LP.

as played i think you have to call. you hit a piece of the flop pretty hard and he could easily be doing this with a 7x hand or A5.

HuJwang · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject:

i'm probably open shoving both hands, although hand 2 is close. as played i'm snap getting it in in both spots. you cant think about folding TPGK with 15 bb (and antes).

also, POST READS AND STAKES. READ THE STICKY

bleffo19 · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject:

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nolan6 · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject:

thanks all i dont have a problem shoving all in, although the 88 hand was a huge mistake, i just seem to not want to call the all ins.

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