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matveySobolev
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Why did I lose? Reply with quote

Why did I lose?
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Flying_Kiwi
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You had 444TT
other guy had 444AA

444AA beats 444TT
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IABoomer
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/omaha-only-2-hole-cards-only-3-board-cards-t70025.html
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matveySobolev
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying_Kiwi wrote:
You had 444TT
other guy had 444AA

444AA beats 444TT


I understand it.
I do not understand why a player junojuno has won. He does not have anything!
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matveySobolev
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IABoomer wrote:
http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/omaha-only-2-hole-cards-only-3-board-cards-t70025.html


I used 2 of 4 hole cards in hand and 3 of 5 cards on table. I know about it.
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IABoomer
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without a full hand history, and considering I can't make out the text of the game, I'm guessing you were playing omaha hi/lo, also known as Omaha/8 or better.

junojuno has a qualifying low hand, using the 7, 4, and A from the board, plus the 3 and 2 from his hand to make a qualifying lo hand of 7, 4, 3, 2, A. Thus, he wins the low half of the pot. Davy with 4 4 4 A A wins the high half of the pot with fours full of aces. You don't have a qualifying low hand, so you don't get any of the lo pot, and your 4 4 4 T T isn't enough to beat Davy so you don't get any of the high pot.
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francois8
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll convert it here.

junojuno has 2Club KClub 3Club 5Heart
davy2006 has ADiamond 4Diamond 5Diamond JDiamond
you have KSpade 5Spade 4Heart THeart

Board is 4Club AClub TSpade 7 Heart 4Spade

No flush is possible, so suits don't matter. I'm 99% certain that you're playing Omaha Hi/Lo here as well.

So junojuno has 7432A for low, and 44AK5 for high.
davy has no qualifying low hand and 444AA for high.
you have no qualifying low hand and 444TT for high.

davy2006 wins the high with the best hand, juno juno has only low hand and wins the low. You have no low hand and second best high hand.

I can only guess that junojuno has 350 extra chips since he was "all in" for more than either of you and received the extra chips back since it was more than either of you could match.
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Timinane
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Omaha HiLo the hand history usually tells you which part of the pot you have won, if you win hi it says somehing like winner-hi and the same goes for lo. (Forgive me I can't remember exactly how it looks in the hand history I just remember that it does.)


I am certain it is Omaha Hi.
I think we have not noticed the fourth hand that was shown in that hand history which is to the immediate right of matveySobolev.

Judging from this I'd say the chipstacks would've ranked something like this at the start of the hand. (based on chips at the end)

Highest - (guy to the right)
2nd - disputed winner
3rd - undisputed winner
4th - matveySobolev.

If this is the correct ranking then the top 2 could've put more chips in the pot then the undisputed winner could win thus they would play for a side pot.

Their best hands were as follows.

disputed winner KClub 5Heart AClub 4Club 4 Spade
Pair of fours, king kicker.
(guy to the right) QClub JSpade AClub 4Club 4 Spade
Pair of fours, queen kicker.

disputed winner has best hand out of those two thus wins the side pot.
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