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craigo6x
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: This becomes an interesting hand on the turn Reply with quote

Forget my preflop call. It's loose, but I'm either hitting the flop or out, but on the turn am I calling his raise or shoving, and why?

Full Tilt Poker Game #13766174869: Table Digger (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 9:35:44 ET - 2009/08/02
Seat 1: craigo6x ($27.88)
Seat 2: jofabitz ($63.40)
Seat 3: ACE_HIGH_WINZ ($21.21)
Seat 4: Silentse ($8.64)
Seat 5: Super User Acct ($38.45)
Seat 6: - ka-boomed - ($29.07)
craigo6x posts the small blind of $0.10
jofabitz posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to craigo6x [Ac 4d 7c 8h]
ACE_HIGH_WINZ folds
Silentse folds
Super User Acct folds
- ka-boomed - raises to $0.85
craigo6x calls $0.75
jofabitz folds
*** FLOP *** [7d 2d 7h]
craigo6x checks
- ka-boomed - checks
*** TURN *** [7d 2d 7h] [3d]
craigo6x bets $1.95
- ka-boomed - raises to $7.80
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cubbies760
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shove all day. If you're extremely unlucky to be up against a flush and the nut low, then you're still getting some of your money back if you miss on your redraws.
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Strasse
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shove. The fact that you have the 4d makes it even more unlikely that he has a flush and the nut low.
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craigo6x
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strasse wrote:
Shove. The fact that you have the 4d makes it even more unlikely that he has a flush and the nut low.


craigo6x raises to $25.35
- ka-boomed - has 15 seconds left to act
- ka-boomed -: i have nut flush
- ka-boomed - has requested TIME
- ka-boomed -: 2nd nut low
- ka-boomed - folds
Uncalled bet of $17.55 returned to craigo6x
craigo6x mucks
craigo6x wins the pot ($16.68)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.55 | Rake $0.87
Board: [7d 2d 7h 3d]
Seat 1: craigo6x (small blind) collected ($16.68), mucked
Seat 2: jofabitz (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: ACE_HIGH_WINZ didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Silentse didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Super User Acct didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: - ka-boomed - (button) folded on the Turn
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vectorspace
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, get as many chips in as possible. I'm guessing the villain either has a naked nut low, the same hand as you, or something like 33. It looks like you're getting at least 1/2 and maybe 3/4 or even a scoop.

Hmmm. Bad raise by villain with a flush on a paired board.
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sixandfour
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the shove, but WTF are you doing playing against a super user account?
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craigo6x
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sixandfour wrote:
Agree with the shove, but WTF are you doing playing against a super user account?


Meh-I don't care if he can see my hole cards. I'll still beat his bot ***.
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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah easy shove here. you're usually at least a chop, and if you think about it, it's almost impossible for you to get scooped. (the only way i can think of it happening is against exactly AA45 with the case ace hitting the river)
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craigo6x
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HuJwang wrote:
yeah easy shove here. you're usually at least a chop, and if you think about it, it's almost impossible for you to get scooped. (the only way i can think of it happening is against exactly AA45 with the case ace hitting the river)


even that wouldn't scoop as my 4 would quarter.

My thinking was exactly as yours. Even if he calls, I'm pretty unbeatable one way with draws to a scoop.
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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, he'd have a wheel and aces full. you'd have 7-4 and sevens full.
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craigo6x
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HuJwang wrote:
yeah, he'd have a wheel and aces full. you'd have 7-4 and sevens full.


I see, correct.
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