Online Poker Forum - 77 in sb 3 limps FLHE tournament

mysteriouschef · Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:56 am Post subject: 77 in sb 3 limps FLHE tournament

My reads on mp2 was that he was LAG but over a small sample of 20 hands. showed down all horrible hands.

With three limpers I elected to raise for value with 77, but I think this was a slight mistake. I know I do this all the time with 99 but is 77 too weak here?

OTF there is no point in betting as this does not protect my hand in any way. Getting 10-1 They would be correct to call with hands like T8.

Turn is a blank so I c/c again.

Here on the river should I just be check calling? I thought that b/f would be the best at the time, but now I think c/c the river would get him to bluff some missed draws.

What do you guys think?

Full Tilt Limit Hold'em Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (8 handed) - Converter Tool from

Hero's M: 16.75

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 Club

, 7

2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls

Flop: (9 SB) 6 Heart

, 9

(4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold

Turn: (5.5 BB) 4 Spade

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls

River: (7.5 BB) 6 Spade

(2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero folds

Total pot: t760 (9.5 BB)

[spoil]
MP2 didn't show
Outcome: MP2 won t760[/spoil]

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject:

If you are going to raise preflop you should lead the flop not to protect but for value. If you're going to check, I think c/r gets more info than c/c. Then follow through with a lead on the turn and c/c or b/f the river. Your line in this hand doesn't make any sense. raise, c/c, c/c, b/f. As played should have c/c on the river at least you get to showdown for the same price.

WhatASurprise · Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject:

Stacks? If they are relatively deep, the raise is fine for set mining. You want to build the pot for when you hit your set, and you can easily dump it if you don't hit.

I'm leading the flop like AIDD said, and calling a raise, folding to a 3bet/cap. The river is a clear c/c because the hearts/overs missed, and by donking you eliminate all bluffs from his range.

mysteriouschef · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:32 am Post subject:

The reason I didn't raise the flop was that I was going to wait until the turn to raise because my hands equity changes alot on certain turn cards. Is this not an example of waiting for the turn to raise? However once mp1 folded the flop and a blank hit the turn My plan was to just c/c c/r the river. Mp2 caps every street in previous hands and shows down Q high. But when the river 6 came I kinda froze and bet out. I do agree a river c/c is better here.

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject:

Your hand really isn't strong enough to C/R the turn or river. You went for a tricky line when a more straightforward one would have been better. As played, are you sure villain isn't raising the river with air again? For this reason I recommend the C/C because you can still beat a bluff but not much else.

mysteriouschef · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject:

I all ready agreed that c/c was better on the river, but I think the c/c on the flop is still correct.

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject:

I think C/R on the flop is also acceptable and gains more information than C/C.

mysteriouschef · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject:

But why would I take the small equity on the flop when I can skip that and see if the turn is a scare card or not. I am passing on small equity on the flop for a much greater equity on the turn.

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:20 am Post subject:

The turn card was officially a blank so might as well go for the c/r right there if you're going to do it.

mysteriouschef · Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:36 am Post subject:

Yes I know but do at least agree with me on the flop play? I know all ready that a botched the turn and river.

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:50 am Post subject:

I would only agree that c/c on the flop is correct if you were going to go for c/r on the turn, which you didn't.

mysteriouschef · Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject:

Thanks for agreeing with me

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