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JDizzzle72
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 Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: Line checks after a horrible session |
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just went -15BB/100 over 1500 hands. First negative session since i started playing cash, just doing some line checks. .25/.5 FR btw. Specific questions: hand 2, board is super super dry. so checking behind to let someone hit something should be fin, yes? hand 3, do I expect to always be flipping with his 7xBB bet? If so do I just want to flat? seems spew. hand 4, I can value bet river, yes?
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HAND #1
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Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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UTG: $50
UTG+1: $10.95
UTG+2: $10.50
MP1: $50.75
MP2: $80.90
CO: $10.75
Hero (BTN): $51.85
SB: $50
BB: $43.80
Pre-Flop: 3 3 dealt to Hero (BTN)
4 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB raises to $2.50, BB folds, MP2 calls $2, Hero calls $2
Flop: ($8) 5 7 3 (3 Players)
SB bets $4.50, MP2 calls $4.50, Hero raises to $12, SB folds, MP2 calls $7.50
Turn: ($36.50) 2 (2 Players)
MP2 bets $36.50, Hero raises to $37.35 and is All-In, MP2 calls $0.85
River: ($111.20) J (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
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HAND #2
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Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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UTG+2: $30
MP1: $48.25
MP2: $46.25
CO: $49.60
Hero (BTN): $82.85
SB: $71.65
BB: $22.25
UTG: $51.15
UTG+1: $13
Pre-Flop: 5 5 dealt to Hero (BTN)
4 folds, MP2 raises to $1, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1, SB folds, BB calls $0.50
Flop: ($4.25) 8 Q 5 (4 Players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($4.25) 9 (4 Players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $2, CO folds, Hero raises to $7, BB folds, MP2 calls $5
River: ($18.25) 9 (2 Players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $12, MP2 raises to $30, Hero raises to $48, MP2 calls $8.25 and is All-In
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HAND #3
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Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
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UTG+1: $59.20
MP: $10
CO: $52.75
BTN: $139.80
Hero (SB): $50
BB: $51.55
UTG: $34.20
Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG raises to $3.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $10, BB folds, UTG raises to $34.20 and is All-In, Hero calls $24.20
Flop: ($68.90) 6 9 9 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Turn: ($68.90) 3 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: ($68.90) Q (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
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HAND #4
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Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
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UTG: $75.70
UTG+1: $49.50
MP1: $110.25
MP2: $161.20
CO: $50
Hero (BTN): $50
SB: $54.60
BB: $13.70
Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (BTN)
4 folds, CO raises to $1.55, Hero raises to $5.10, 2 folds, CO calls $3.55
Flop: ($10.95) 8 4 A (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($10.95) A (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $6, CO calls $6
River: ($22.95) 2 (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $11, CO calls $11 |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Take the below with a grain of salt, because I pretty much never play full ring.
1) I'd iso pre and raise to maybe 16 on the flop.
2) I still bet, because there's a fair amount of various straight draws out there and it's also going to be a lot harder to stack Qx if you don't start building the pot on the flop. As played, I think the river might be just a call once he checkraises, but I'm not nearly familiar enough w/ FR unknowns to really know one way or the other.
3) Weird spot, but this looks fine to me.
4) I'd very often just flat pre, but 3-betting is fine and often best. Postflop looks fine.
Did you have no relevant reads/stats at all in these hands btw? |
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adam27x
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| fwiw, one's winrate over 1500 hands is completely useless. Winning players can have 60k hand breakeven stretches (take a look at some of Jon's graphs) |
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JDizzzle72
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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only semi read i had was that villain in hand 3 sucked. i cant use my HUD when 12 tabling because my laptop can't handle it. and going down to 4-6 tables with a HUD reduces my avg $/hr so I opt to keep 12 running. none of the villains otherwise were particularly good or bad.
and i know the winrate is useless, just saying that i sucked for my meager session of 1500 hands haha |
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