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GoodDerf
High Card
Joined: 15 Mar 2009
Posts: 17
Location: United States-Michigan
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 Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: Suckout or did I play this wrong? |
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I first want to mention that the guy who called me I had been playing with for a little bit. He completes just about every hand and will 4 raise you on air so just keep that in mind.
Full Tilt Poker Game #11172861915: Table Losee - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Stud H/L - 15:21:05 ET - 2009/03/16
Seat 1: thesheikster ($4.90)
Seat 2: tbboston ($7)
Seat 3: 246easy ($8.85)
Seat 4: Nuke2 ($9.75)
Seat 5: loosehandL ($3.90)
Seat 6: Pegs Turn ($4.20)
Seat 7: SirPlay ($2.70)
Seat 8: GoodDerf ($11.60)
loosehandL antes $0.05
SirPlay antes $0.05
tbboston antes $0.05
246easy antes $0.05
Pegs Turn antes $0.05
thesheikster antes $0.05
Nuke2 antes $0.05
GoodDerf antes $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to thesheikster [Ah]
Dealt to tbboston [7s]
Dealt to 246easy [Ac]
Dealt to Nuke2 [Tc]
Dealt to loosehandL [9d]
Dealt to Pegs Turn [8s]
Dealt to SirPlay [Kc]
Dealt to GoodDerf [Th 2h] [2d]
GoodDerf is low with [2d]
GoodDerf brings in for $0.10
thesheikster folds
tbboston calls $0.10
246easy completes it to $0.25
Nuke2 folds
loosehandL folds
Pegs Turn folds
SirPlay folds
GoodDerf calls $0.15
tbboston calls $0.15
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to tbboston [7s] [Jc]
Dealt to 246easy [Ac] [Js]
Dealt to GoodDerf [Th 2h 2d] [6d]
246easy checks
GoodDerf checks
tbboston checks
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to tbboston [7s Jc] [9c]
Dealt to 246easy [Ac Js] [Qs]
Dealt to GoodDerf [Th 2h 2d 6d] [6h]
GoodDerf bets $0.50
tbboston has 15 seconds left to act
tbboston calls $0.50
246easy folds
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to tbboston [7s Jc 9c] [8d]
Dealt to GoodDerf [Th 2h 2d 6d 6h] [As]
GoodDerf bets $0.50
tbboston raises to $1
GoodDerf raises to $1.50
tbboston raises to $2
GoodDerf calls $0.50
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to GoodDerf [Th 2h 2d 6d 6h As] [Kd]
GoodDerf checks
tbboston bets $0.50
GoodDerf calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tbboston shows [8c 6s 7s Jc 9c 8d 5d] a straight, Nine high, for high
GoodDerf mucks
tbboston wins the pot ($6.80) with a straight, Nine high
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.15 | Rake $0.35
Seat 1: thesheikster folded on 3rd St.
Seat 2: tbboston showed [8c 6s 7s Jc 9c 8d 5d] and won ($6.80) with HI: a straight, Nine high
Seat 3: 246easy folded on 5th St.
Seat 4: Nuke2 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: loosehandL folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: Pegs Turn folded on 3rd St.
Seat 7: SirPlay folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: GoodDerf mucked [Kd Th 2d 6d 6h As 2h] - HI: two pair, Sixes and Twos |
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mysteriouschef
Royal Flush
Joined: 03 Aug 2008
Posts: 911
Location: hawaii, honolulu
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I converted the hand for you, but please try to do it yourself in the future.
7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.25/$0.5), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.10 ()
Seat 1: $4.90
Seat 2: $7
Seat 3: $8.85
Seat 4: $9.75
Seat 5: $3.90
Seat 6: $4.20
Seat 7: $2.70
Hero: $11.60
3rd Street - (1.6 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx A  ___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 7  ___calls ___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A  ___completes
Seat 4: xx xx T ___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 9  ___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 8 ___folds
Seat 7: xx xx K ___folds
Hero: T 2 2 ___brings-in ___calls
4th Street - (4.6 SB)
Seat 2: xx xx 7 J ___checks
Seat 3: xx xx A J ___checks
Hero: T 2 2 6 ___checks
5th Street - (2.3 BB)
Seat 2: xx xx 7 J 9 ___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A J Q ___folds
Hero: T 2 2 6 6 ___bets
6th Street - (4.3 BB)
Seat 2: xx xx 7 J 9 8 ___raises ___raises
Hero: T 2 2 6 6 A ___bets ___raises ___calls
River - (12.3 BB)
Seat 2: xx xx 7 J 9 8 xx ___bets
Hero: T 2 2 6 6 A K ___checks ___calls
Total pot: (14.3 BB - $7.15)
Results (in white):
Total pot $7.15 | Rake $0.35
Note: this site shuffles the hole cards.
Seat 2: [8c 6s 7s Jc 9c 8d 5d] -
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Strasse
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Posts: 7026
Location: Houston, TX
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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chef, don't post if you aren't going to answer the question. Unlike holdem, converting stud hands isn't really that important. I don't think that anyone who answers stud questions on this board actually cares if they are converted or not.
To the OP, that hand is absolutely awful. It doesn't matter what your opponent is playing, I'd say almost every hand he could have would be a favorite over you. Just fold to begin with. |
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goomlah
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Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Strasse is right-If this was stud I'd say see a few cards. Here, you're only shooting for half the pot to start with 22T? Not good. |
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GoodDerf
High Card
Joined: 15 Mar 2009
Posts: 17
Location: United States-Michigan
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:31 am Post subject: |
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I get that this is a horrible start off hand and I wouldn't normally play it but I was bring in and i check/folded at 4th so I still saw 5th. At 5th I and got the second. Should I have check/folded all the way from there? He has 3 dead cards for a queen/king high straight and 2 dead specifically his connector for a 9 high straight. Also his higher pairs have 1 dead each needing trips or two pair. As for the low hand best case scenario he has to catch two low cards. Whereas I figure I have 1 dead heart to a long shot flush and no dead cards to my pairs. Would you have played it at this point and if so what would make you fold at this point? Final thought I figured the other person was going to fold because they had been playing aggressively if they had a hand. I thought if they both called/raised I was going to check fold.
Is this still completely unsound reasoning at this point?
Finally I would agree that I played it horribly after 5th. |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Split 2's w/a crappy kicker, especially with two of them burned, it's never worth defending. I'll usually only defend this with a suited additional wheel card. Otherwise it really has no value.
When a 7 door catches a nine, you should consider it a scare card as it falls in a straight range. Granted, many will complete some razzy hands, but whenever a straight card falls, you should always reassess. |
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GoodDerf
High Card
Joined: 15 Mar 2009
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Location: United States-Michigan
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| Zophar wrote: |
Split 2's w/a crappy kicker, especially with two of them burned, it's never worth defending. I'll usually only defend this with a suited additional wheel card. Otherwise it really has no value.
When a 7 door catches a nine, you should consider it a scare card as it falls in a straight range. Granted, many will complete some razzy hands, but whenever a straight card falls, you should always reassess. |
Ok that makes sense, but how should I re asses when there's a loose canon with those cards that I have watched call/bet every hand with a draw hand that needs two specific cards by 5th? |
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quick98ta
Royal Flush
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Posts: 723
Location: Playing a "Rigged" game and beating it.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| wait them out and let them dump off there chips to u when u have the best of it. Dont resort to playing like them. |
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objbayes
Three of a Kind
Joined: 20 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| No question...dump those 2s. This is a terrible hand and you need to look for a better spot even against a maniac, because you're way behind even a random hand. |
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