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bonzodrums0
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: What do i do? Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker Game #609836624: Table Pavilion Center - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha - 22:34:33 ET - 2006/05/02
Seat 1: heyandy ($7.35)
Seat 2: Bonzodrums0 ($12.15)
Seat 3: jrlilly ($2.90)
Seat 4: CeBlessing ($0), is sitting out
Seat 5: GreenBucket ($15.40)
Seat 6: CIndians ($7.20)
Seat 7: yandigs ($6.10)
Seat 8: joe421 ($9.65)
Seat 9: SuicideKinq ($19.05)
jrlilly posts the small blind of $0.05
GreenBucket posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bonzodrums0 [7h Qc Ks 8h]
CeBlessing stands up
CIndians raises to $0.25
yandigs calls $0.25
joe421 folds
SuicideKinq folds
heyandy calls $0.25
Bonzodrums0 calls $0.25
jrlilly calls $0.20
GreenBucket calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [Qs 4s 8d]
jrlilly checks
GreenBucket checks
CIndians bets $0.95
yandigs folds
heyandy folds
Bonzodrums0 calls $0.95
jrlilly calls $0.95
LieutTom sits down
GreenBucket folds
*** TURN *** [Qs 4s 8d] [2h]
jrlilly checks
CIndians bets $3.50

What should i do now? I'll write what i did later.
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Strasse
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fold preflop
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Kloaked Spirit
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fold preflop.

Don't feel like doing that? Well on the flop you're either re-potting and folding to a re-raise on that, or folding because this guy's got the image that he's not making this move on a strong draw alone.

That'd make this turn decision a lot easier. As it stands, you're either way ahead or way behind, but with no reads this is a probable fold.
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mathman1115
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At that point you fold. YOu have two pair, but your opponent could have a higher two pair or a set, in which case you are dominated. There is also a str8 and flush draw on board, none of which you have, so your oppoenents could have good draws to go with any part of the board they hit. Your hand is way to weak to call here.
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Strasse
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

mathman1115 wrote:
YOu have two pair, but your opponent could have a higher two pair


That is incorrect. He has top two pair, so there is no two pair that is better than his.
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bonzodrums0
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

thanks. Im kinda knew to this so i needed some help.
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mathman1115
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks strasse, i misread the board for his hand at one point. But everything else i said i still stick too........
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krazybangs
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:20 pm    Post subject: What about.. Reply with quote

What about at least check raising with top two Pair? Granted someone could Hold KK or AA in their hand... even remotely QQ but at least it gives him a chance to bet people out or slow down the future betting?

More of a question to Strasse than an answer to the original post, I play PL torunys once in a while... but I am not a good source for correct info.
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princebalf
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first folding peflop shoudl have been your first option, no wrap hand and only 1 weak flush draw is just bad news.

post flop u have top 2 pair which is probably good right now but the initial raiser has kk or AA, so giving that she has 5outs on flop to your 2 pair, the turn she is over betting her AA, but with the over bet u have to assume she has nut flush draw and/or gutshot shot str draw. even with no flush draw she now has 8outs and with a flush draw 15outs.
15 outs in omaha is a pretty good draw to 2pair and i would take it most days and i. plus if she has a str draw as well it gives 3 more outs.


i bet the raiser has As Ad 3s 6h or close to hand like that

i would fold to any raise even if im sure i have best hand after turn, just to many cards u are vulnerable to
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