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Strasse
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:05 am    Post subject: I came Reply with quote

What do you think? Genius or lunacy? I was amazed when he flipped over his hand. I must admit, I've tried this type of play before, but never gotten it to work. I've even had it where they called my raise on the river w/ only the pair they have showing. So what do you think? Is this guy absolutely amazing or just a lucky donk?

FullTiltPoker Game #10758253130: Table Rome - $3/$6 Ante $0.50 - Limit Stud Hi - 2:24:33 ET - 2009/02/21
Seat 1: 77safari99 ($178)
Seat 2: GWSgnfishin ($99)
Seat 3: MOMACITA711 ($126)
Seat 4: forehead15 ($129)
Seat 5: ziliionaire ($135.50)
Seat 6: artee925 ($73.50)
Seat 7: PFD3403 ($107)
Seat 8: Strasse ($220.50)
PFD3403 antes $0.50
Strasse antes $0.50
GWSgnfishin antes $0.50
MOMACITA711 antes $0.50
artee925 antes $0.50
ziliionaire antes $0.50
77safari99 antes $0.50
forehead15 antes $0.50
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to 77safari99 [4d]
Dealt to GWSgnfishin [Jd]
Dealt to MOMACITA711 [Ad]
Dealt to forehead15 [9c]
Dealt to ziliionaire [Qh]
Dealt to artee925 [3h]
Dealt to PFD3403 [5s]
Dealt to Strasse [Kd 8h] [2d]
Strasse is low with [2d]
Strasse brings in for $1
77safari99 calls $1
GWSgnfishin calls $1
MOMACITA711 has 15 seconds left to act
MOMACITA711 calls $1
forehead15 calls $1
ziliionaire calls $1
artee925 calls $1
PFD3403 calls $1
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to 77safari99 [4d] [5c]
Dealt to GWSgnfishin [Jd] [3s]
Dealt to MOMACITA711 [Ad] [9s]
Dealt to forehead15 [9c] [9h]
Dealt to ziliionaire [Qh] [7s]
Dealt to artee925 [3h] [Jc]
Dealt to PFD3403 [5s] [5d]
Dealt to Strasse [Kd 8h 2d] [4s]
forehead15 bets $6
ziliionaire folds
artee925 folds
PFD3403 folds
Strasse folds
77safari99 folds
GWSgnfishin calls $6
MOMACITA711 is sitting out
MOMACITA711 folds
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to GWSgnfishin [Jd 3s] [Ah]
Dealt to forehead15 [9c 9h] [7c]
forehead15 bets $6
GWSgnfishin calls $6
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to GWSgnfishin [Jd 3s Ah] [6d]
Dealt to forehead15 [9c 9h 7c] [3d]
forehead15 bets $6
GWSgnfishin calls $6
*** 7TH STREET ***
forehead15 bets $6
GWSgnfishin raises to $12
forehead15 has 15 seconds left to act
forehead15 folds
Uncalled bet of $6 returned to GWSgnfishin
GWSgnfishin shows [Kh Td Jd 3s Ah 6d 9d] Ace King high
GWSgnfishin wins the pot ($57)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $60 | Rake $3
Seat 1: 77safari99 folded on 4th St.
Seat 2: GWSgnfishin collected ($57)
Seat 3: MOMACITA711 folded on 4th St.
Seat 4: forehead15 folded on 7th St.
Seat 5: ziliionaire folded on 4th St.
Seat 6: artee925 folded on 4th St.
Seat 7: PFD3403 folded on 4th St.
Seat 8: Strasse folded on 4th St.
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bigpairde
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW

I rather think it was his first ever stud game and he didn't know what to do: so whenever there was this call button he was clicking it,....


this was how I played my first stud game also Embarassed
I choose cheaper buy ins though
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Strasse
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigpairde wrote:
WOW

I rather think it was his first ever stud game and he didn't know what to do: so whenever there was this call button he was clicking it,....


this was how I played my first stud game also Embarassed
I choose cheaper buy ins though


No, I know he wasn't that bad. I played w/ him a while and he wasn't a calling station. He also started w/ the 4th 9, so he knew the other guy didn't have trip 9s.
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nutdriver
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[b]I think he picked off a bluffed set and forehead had to put him on the jacks, even though there was no raise on third, to call like that, especially if he was playing a tight game as you suggest. Or he might have clicked fold by mistake.
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spike420211
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nutdriver wrote:
[b]I think he picked off a bluffed set and forehead had to put him on the jacks, even though there was no raise on third, to call like that, especially if he was playing a tight game as you suggest. Or he might have clicked fold by mistake.


i'm thinkin A's as well, they were live.
forehead could have been value-betting 9's up.
GWSgnfishin had a reeeeaaaal ugly board, and might have bluff-raised
to represent A's up or trips on 7th.
This looks like an .05/.10 metagame move, I would leantowards w/ BP's theory.
However, this IS 3/6... based on Strasse's take on him thru the session, this guy is balla.
[took some cajones to show that down, too Very Happy... and he probably went tighter than Bangkok snatch for the next 10-15 hands ]
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ShaunMasterton
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appears to me he was chasing the queen for a straight, maybe felt he would hit the queen. He didn't get it so re-raised in hope to get a fold. I'm not good at stud but understand how to play it and seem to be chasing straights and flushes a lot, so why I'm thinking that here.

Smile
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spike420211
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShaunMasterton wrote:
Appears to me he was chasing the queen for a straight, maybe felt he would hit the queen. He didn't get it so re-raised in hope to get a fold. I'm not good at stud but understand how to play it and seem to be chasing straights and flushes a lot, so why I'm thinking that here.

Smile

another likely theory, but there's a dead Q out and he getting crap pot odds. What I've also noticed is forehead's lack of a crying call on 7th, unless he only had the 9's. GWSgnfishin had his ugly board w/ 2 high cards as a primary plan, with the gutshot catch as a backup, as this is a typical 5th-street fold, even HU. This was PLANNED from 4th as a stone-naked bluff.
Likely a solid hard read on forehead's style. If it was a soul read, I doubt he would've shown down.

Dude could be a hi-limit stud/8 psycho as well Very Happy
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GoodDerf
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He could have also been doing what I will do at times if I am feeling really really ballsy and the situation is right. I like to play pretty tight which can mean that if I am playing with the same people for a while that they will fold to just about anything I have lowering my pots to just about nothing. So Ill start randomly bluffing what hands that look good on the porch hoping to get caught. Mind you it usually takes a few hands before they call me on it so the loss from the one hand is made up by the others. Anyways it means that I start getting called again and my pots are decent once more.
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Dierwolf2000
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dunno wtf he was thinking thats for sure, but from what little I know of stud, that was an amazingly lucky catch and not skill at all.
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Strasse
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dierwolf2000 wrote:
dunno wtf he was thinking thats for sure, but from what little I know of stud, that was an amazingly lucky catch and not skill at all.


What do you mean catch? He didn't catch anything, he bluffed the dude.
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