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Flying_Kiwi
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: LHE QQ too passive? Line check Reply with quote

Should I have just lead out on the flop? How about the rest of the hand?

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Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to LHEn00b (UTG)
LHEn00b raises, UTG+1 calls, 5 folds, BB calls

Flop: (6.4 SB) A J 3 (3 Players)
BB checks, LHEn00b checks, UTG+1 checks

Turn: (3.2 BB) 4 (3 Players)
BB checks, LHEn00b bets, UTG+1 calls, BB folds

River: (5.2 BB) T (2 Players)
LHEn00b checks, UTG+1 bets, LHEn00b calls

Results: 7.2 BB Pot (0.3 BB Rake)
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Riddim
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I probably bet flop and fold river as played. It's just too hard for him to have a worse hand that he'd bet there I think and the pot also isn't all that big since you checked the flop.
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fire_eyes_2k
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to have got this one a bit wrong, you should always lead the flop there, as your UTG raise usually represents an A, and your UTG+1 caller usually means he has a smaller PP, so by checking you're basically advertising your hand as QQ, KK or maybe a slowplayed AA, but its unlikely.

If you're called by UTG+1 when you lead then you may still be in front, so I often go into c/c mode for the turn and river, possibly bet/folding the river against some opponents as it gets value from Jx. If you get called by the BB, then I like the same approach, but usually check the turn behind him if he's a nit as he'll usually have a weak ace if he is. This c/c'ing may be a bit of a leak, I'm still not sure as I seem to get called down by middle pair pretty often.
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