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jmb52
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: stud rewards terrible play Reply with quote

I started playing Stud .25/.50 yesterday.

It seems like some people just seem to call all the way down. The annoying thing is they seem to get rewarded for this terrible play with backdoor straights and flushes.

I had rolled up sixes and the guy called me all the way and had the cheek to bet with his two pair on 7th.

There is absolutely no strategy to their play and I find the thought of them thinking "I'm so great", when they keep drawing out, very annoying. I feel it is my duty to make sarcastic comments in the chatbox. such as

"you realise you were only winning becuase of variance?"


I know it is probably good when there's a few people calling against the odds. When everyone does it you have no chance to win with skill.

Anyone else relate to this?
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smokindog
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. Sounds about right. You'll see / make a lot of crying calls on 6th/7th where you're actually ahead, but think there's no way you can beat your opponent.
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kyblue007
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1

OK, I was just checking to see if I could post a reply to a post, it has been messed up for a couple of day.

Thanks Laughing
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Big Slick x13x
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're complaining that a guy bet into you with two pair when you had trips? Why? Just say Thank You and move on. Unless variance is hitting you really hard I find it nearly impossible to lose money at .25/.50, .50/1, 1/2, 2/4 stud online.
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sloshedzeus
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think bad play pays off less in stud then most any other game. In that situation, with rolled up 6's, yes you had a big advantage but what did your board look like? A bad read is not necessarily bad play.

Was the straight the only hand he could have been going for? Remember, with rolled up 6's you have only one 6 showing and he could have just put you on a big pair in the hole. He could have figured he was getting the odds to call if he felt he had more outs then just the straight.
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jmb52
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nah I'm not bitter about losing. In fact I've had more success playing this than hold'em so far. I just found their smug little avatars annoying when they kept lucking out and winning pots. Rolling Eyes

thanks for your replies. slick I can relate to what you say about it being hard to lose in the long run. Although someone else on the forum I recalled said that you should have 500xBB in your bankroll because of variance??

Sloshhedzeus I can't remember what he had but it was probably not a decent draw as he was calling everything all the way down.
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Big Slick x13x
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmb52 wrote:

thanks for your replies. slick I can relate to what you say about it being hard to lose in the long run. Although someone else on the forum I recalled said that you should have 500xBB in your bankroll because of variance??


500xBB is pretty standard for all limit games. I think that's a little on the tight side of the spectrum. I've heard a lot of people recommend 300 - 500xBB depending on what reasons you're playing for. IF you're playing for a living or really trying to build a BR, then 500xBB is much better. If you're playing just for fun then you can really play with however many BBs you want.
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