Online Poker Forum - The Real Story of the WSOPC at Tahoe

JDN · **Team Full Tilt** Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 26

The hour long program on ESPN doesn't do justice to Ivey's play at the final table. The problem with an hour long show is that it only shows the bust out and the all in hands and with 10 players at a table, it is impossible to get any other coverage crammed into 60 minutes.

It was basically a dominating performance from Phil. The actual final table lasted over 14 hours and the heads portion was about 2 1/2 hours long. Phil kept the pressure on all the players throughout the final table and was able to build his stack from blind stealing more than anything. He played around 75% of the hands, similar to what he did when he won the Omaha bracelet this year at the Series. Actually I think he played every hand at the Omaha final table.

No credit was given to James Van Alstyne for playing from the short stack most of the day to finish 3rd. Lisandro made a great come back to win the tournament but was playing scared for most of the heads up play. The only reason he called the final hand was because Phil had made the same move on him several times.

Phil had doubled Lisandro up 2 or 3 times during heads up only to whittle his chips away several times before doubling up twice in a few hands. It is unfortunate that none of this information was conveyed during the show. It seems like the network only thinks people want to see the big hands that make or break the players. What if baseball broadcasts only showed homeruns? It might make baseball a little more interesting to watch but there is so much more that goes on during a game, in sports and poker, that help determine the outcome.

Hopefully they can move to a 2 hour format in the future and give a more accurate portrayal of these final tables.

dano2769 · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:48 am Post subject:

I absolutely agree. I've always thought that the editing of poker tables down to the exciting hands takes away from the realism of the game.

Jaconda78 · Moderator Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4179

And worse, they splice things people said and did in one hand into another! Does anybody know when/if any more live broadcasts will be shown? Even reruns of those would be nice - I want to actually watch how the pros play, not how they play once every 221 hands when they have pocket aces.

n0rd1c · Three of a Kind Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 79

jaconda, i totally agree. it was nice seeing the pros ditch every hand for 10 min and not being able to do the math for the sidepots just like in everyones own home games. just made em more real.

JetsFan28 · Royal Flush Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 799 Location: NY

i dont like editing of poker sessions, but the broadcast would drag on 4ever

3ILPG3 · High Card Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 9

I think that the edited broadcasts would be a lot better if it weren't for the commentary. Honestly, most of the time I watch it on mute.

BOYNAMEDSUE · Moderator Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 9542 Location: Mypos

I like watching the first couple days of the WSOP more than the last couple days for that very reason. Less all-ins, more table talk, and more actual poker being played.

And I absolutely disagree with 3ILPG3. Lon McEachern and Norman Chad do a great job. But that's just my opinion. I'm probably outnumbered, lol.

mistaken69 · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject:

i cant stand mike sexton.....as a commentator that is. I find him to be soo...fake.

goomlah · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject: Fake?

How does someone find a poker pro's commentary to be fake? I will always understand the critcism with Norman Chad cause frankly, he ain't a poker guy. I will never understand someone ripping on Mike Sexton, a season pro with years of experience. Now we all know he's not a top pro, but we definitely now he is capable of playing with the best players in the world. So when he says something, take the advice.

rentuhbat · High Card Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 18

ithink Lon McEachern and Norman Chad kickass.
i would like to see more of these big tourneys
they should put out dvds or something, of the whole final table of different tournements...uncut and what not.

Honest_Rob

fajackta · High Card Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Nor Cal

I was also wandering, when they do the editing. Are the announcers actually doing the announcing at the time or are the actually announcing to the edited version?? Just curious.

3ILPG3 · High Card Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 9

they are not allowed to see what cards the players have while the tournament is going on. so they have to go back later and do voice overs.

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