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shweta · Four of a Kind Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 324

Now I hear so many people complaining about the sight being rigged, I don't agree. I have been playing here for over 6 months and I can see as the site becomes more popular the quality of players is going down, slowly bocming the next party poker. 6 months ago, you rarely had bad beats like the ones I see today. For example:

Last night I was playing and I was dealt A 10 and blinds were 50 100. I raise to 300 and get two calls. I have about 2300 chips, second guy had 1300 and last guy has 1150. Flop comes 10h 7h 5s. I'm first to act and I played pretty aggressive tried to scare the guys out of the pot and went all in...figure even if I lost I would still be in the tourney since no one had more chips than me and had top pair with A kicker. Well, second guy calls and I know I am in trouble. The third guy calls!!! Second guy shows 10 10....well I was unlucky someone caught trips, I took a risk and was unlucky, I can deal with that. THIRD guy called with 5h 6c. Called two all ins with bottom pair with 6 kicker and no real draws. He risks the entire tourney and all his chips!! Turn and river come hearts and the 5 6 catches a flush and wins.

I fealt worse for the guy who had trips!! I mean if the 5 6 guy would have folded as he should have, the hand would have played out as it should and the trips would have won. But now you have complete morons that make such retarded calls and they get lucky. This isn't really a problem with the site being rigged, its the quality of players.

Anyone know of any good new sites?

BOYNAMEDSUE · Moderator Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 9541 Location: Mypos

I was talking to a friend about poker the other day, ranting about a bad beat I had taken, when he brought up a very good point.

Basically, he said, if a person bets, or calls your bet, he deserves to be in the pot. It doesn't matter how dumb his call may look to you. He's paid to see the next card, just like you have. You can't take his money when you win (which will be most of the time if you're playing good cards), then complain when he takes your money (which will be seldom if he's playing junk).

All you can do is suck it up, and know that in the long run you'll take more from him then he'll take from you.

Besides, I'd rather take a bad beat than lose to a better hand. At least I'd know I played it right.

shweta · Four of a Kind Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 324

That�s a good point. But I do like to try and improve my game without having to pay $100 for a sng. Playing with idiots doesn�t help that. I have no problem with people taking risks, calling with draws, or anything like that. My issue is with aimless clearly stupid calls. I mean if two people go all in before you after the flop and they both have more chips than you, there is a good chance either both or one have a solid hand and maybe you should fold your BOTTOM pair of 5s with a 6 kicker (not to mention maybe you should consider not playing a 5 6 off suite when you have 1150 chips and blinds are 50 100 and there is a 200 raise � but that�s a different topic, again that�s taking a risk and I have no problem with that pre-flop�could flop a straight). He had to catch a runner runner to get a straight or a flush�5 high flush too.

But I do agree 99.9% of the time he will lose with that call, and he must be down a lot of $$ thus far. But it would be nice to find another site with the same quality of players that ftp had 6 months ago. Any recommendations? How is poker stars?

jbrennen · Straight Flush Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 422

I don't agree that his call was idiotic. It may have been, but depending on what he thought the opponents had, it's not that far off from being justified by the pot odds.

If the first bettor has K-10 and the first caller holds A-10, which is at least a reasonable guess, his chance of winning is as high as 27.8% -- he does have a pair already, an open ended running straight draw, and a running flush draw. I'm not sure of the exact relationship of the pot size to his stack size when he went all in, but it sounds like the pot odds may have justified his call. If he'd known that he was facing trips, I doubt he'd have made the call, but how could he know?

UrbanMeyer1 · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject:

This thread is laughable, if the players are like party poker players, it's a good thing

torgeauxSA · Flush Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 137

shweta · Four of a Kind Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 324

yeah we'll what you say when you lose 5 games in a row when some a-hole goes all in on a 9 5 off suite and catches a fullhouse and you are down $200 for the month. Until then your opinion is worthless.

Shweta out.

Jaconda78 · Moderator Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4179

I've lost 7 SNGs in a row on bad beats (some bad play also, but the final hand of each was a bad beat - I have the HHs somewhere in my comp if you're interested). I also make money off those same SNGs in the (semi)long run. They're certainly beatable, and keep getting your money in with the best of it, and you'll be fine.

torgeauxSA · Flush Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 137

shweta · Four of a Kind Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 324

cry me a river. If you don't like my posting, stop reading them. I would never do anything that you would recommend since...well...since you're retarded Twisted Evil

Shweta out.

Jaconda78 · Moderator Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4179

Ooh, good response. "You're retarded - so there!" Who comes off as the more intelligent of the two (hint, it's not the guy slinging insults).

Zuchov · Royal Flush Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 646

BOYNAMEDSUE · Moderator Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 9541 Location: Mypos

Not everyone's bankroll is as big as yours Zuchov.

shweta · Four of a Kind Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 324

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