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craigo6x
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 Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: Oh My... |
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Should I be calling? The villain has not raised alot of pots, and I have nothing but KK?
Full Tilt Poker Game #8247131134: Table Landis (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 11:13:31 ET - 2008/09/27
Seat 1: whirlwindAs1 ($24.95)
Seat 2: yesnaya ($11.70)
Seat 3: Zatoichison ($39.85)
Seat 4: Bavarian63 ($32.80)
Seat 5: mocambo45 ($28.25)
Seat 6: craigo6x ($43.95)
whirlwindAs1 posts the small blind of $0.10
yesnaya posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to craigo6x [7s Ks Kd 2s]
Zatoichison folds
Bavarian63 calls $0.25
craigo6x: cmon zat-next time reraise that so I can save $.30
mocambo45 raises to $1.10
craigo6x folds
whirlwindAs1 adds $0.15
whirlwindAs1 folds
yesnaya calls $0.85
Bavarian63 folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc Js Kh]
Zatoichison: lol
yesnaya checks
mocambo45 checks
*** TURN *** [Kc Js Kh] [Qh]
Zatoichison: ok
yesnaya bets $0.75
mocambo45 calls $0.75
*** RIVER *** [Kc Js Kh Qh] [Ac]
yesnaya bets $0.75
mocambo45 raises to $3.50
Zatoichison: only is you do the same for me
yesnaya folds
Uncalled bet of $2.75 returned to mocambo45
mocambo45 mucks
mocambo45 wins the pot ($5.30)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.55 | Rake $0.25
Board: [Kc Js Kh Qh Ac]
Seat 1: whirlwindAs1 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: yesnaya (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: Zatoichison didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Bavarian63 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: mocambo45 collected ($5.30), mucked
Seat 6: craigo6x (button) didn't bet (folded) |
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rockycatt
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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well i think a lot attention is put on the lo A23 and not emough to the hi , your kk wa a good hi
for the flop i think you should have called |
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Strasse
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| It is probably pretty marginal. I probably would have folded like you did, but I don't think calling with hopes of stacking him on a good flop is a bad play either. |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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1st thing that pops out to me is the result oriented thinking(imo) because you would've flopped the nuts. Realistically, flop on is irrelevant.
That said, I'll regularly call or reraise IP with a hand like this. If deep enough, I reraise more often to get HU. If CO doesn't raise often at all, he's pretty much playing his hand face up and you can play postflop accordingly. |
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craigo6x
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Zophar wrote: |
1st thing that pops out to me is the result oriented thinking(imo) because you would've flopped the nuts. Realistically, flop on is irrelevant.
That said, I'll regularly call or reraise IP with a hand like this. If deep enough, I reraise more often to get HU. If CO doesn't raise often at all, he's pretty much playing his hand face up and you can play postflop accordingly. |
Well the Oh MY was certainly because of the result, but the question remains do you call or raise in position with a marginal KK. I certianly reraise a KKAx where A is a 2 or 3, and I'd like somethin suited, but as you say he's playing his hand face up, and by doing so, isn't it spew for me to call with players to act having a second best high only hand? |
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cardfish2
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Good set mining opportunity. If reraised again pre fold it and if it gets that far, fold the flop if you miss. |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Not necessarily spewy because you know what he has(often atleast) and have position on him and he has only a small idea of your range, if he's even thinking ranges. There are alot of flops that he'll have a very difficult time leading into or to c/c on. Couple that with set/flush value and 7 low draw and you should be able to play it profitably.
Note, everything is player dependant. |
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whooper1970
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: ME PERSONALLY !!! |
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I THINK U MADE THE RIGHT MOVE BY FOLDING
THAT WAY U CAN LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY LOL !!!
GL IN THE NEAR FUTURE! |
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Dierwolf2000
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| personally i would have gone with a fold too. |
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