Online Poker Forum - More to life than NLHE

Metski69 · High Card Joined: 07 Mar 2009 Posts: 7

C'mon Academy.

Surely you can come up with challenges for stud, razz, limit HE, Omaha.

Pretty much my least favorite cash game.

NoTilt · Four of a Kind Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 296

Nope, actually, they can't come up with challenges for non-hold 'em games. Their software can only track specific HE hands. Thus, while they can do tasks like "Cash in a razz tournament", they can't do a task like "In a cash razz game on 3rd street, fold a rough 8 when there are 3 or more low cards showing."

Some tasks you can complete in non-NLH games. Increase your BR by 25% comes to mind.

Plus, if you look on the server, you'll see more players playing NLH than anything else. Cash, tourney, SnG, for better or for worse, people like NLH. I agree with you that there's more out there, but I also see their point that NLH is where the rake comes from. You're voting with your $, and if you can convince others to vote your way and play more non-NLH, you'll stand a good chance at getting what you want.

spike420211 · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:52 am Post subject:

NoTilt · Four of a Kind Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 296

Write some software to track non-NLH hands, and maybe they'll give you 100 FTP. Smile

spike420211 · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject:

NoTilt · Four of a Kind Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 296

I was kidding about the 100 FTP stuff of course.

I'm not 100% sure on what they can and can't do, but I have a feeling it's pretty basic. I can say that the pro play of Gus' new challenge can be completed in a non-NLH tournament. I can also say that alot of the challenges would be pretty tough if they were restricted to, say, cashing in a Razz tourney. As a group, non-NLH tourneys are fairly frequent, but at an individual level for each type, they don't seem to be. I'd guess it's about a 50-50 split on NLH vs non-NLH for MTTs. Then, you have to divide up that 50% amongst razz, stud8, stud, PLO, PLO8, and limit O8, and limit hold'em.

SnGs are even more pathetic. PLO has a few STTs that run, and so does PLO8, I think. Razz, stud, and stud 8 are virtually non-existant when compared to NLH.

FTPA's not ignoring non-NLH games. There are tons of sessions, and I think the majority of them are actually non-NLH.

Money speaks, folks! NLH strike! Let's start it now!!!

spike420211 · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject:

i was thinking more along the lines of razz/stud/stud-8 cash games anywayz.
they'd be easier 2 track, and they're ain't much mtt/sng action.

Plus, there is such a lacking in fundamentals in stud games here in the micros, that you'd want to develop for cash game challenges, like the academy 1st stated here with nlhe.

NoTilt · Four of a Kind Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 296

I might be mistaken, since I do play mostly NLH, but it seems to be that limit games play very similarly in both MTT formats and cash games. In other words, I think a razz MTT is alot like a razz cash game, while a NLH tourney and a NLH cash game are totally different beasts. That's because stack size is rarely a consideration in a limit tourney until you get fairly far into it. Again, I could be wrong, but this statement just seems intuitively right to me.

I also agree heartily with your assessment of getting folks STARTED in cash games, and advancing to tournies. I can't believe how many NLH tournies I played in until I discovered NLH cash. It's SO much easier, since you don't have to bother with concepts like ICM and fluctuating stack/blind ratios. Beginners should start with cash and graduate to tournies, IMO.

spike420211 · Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:47 am Post subject:

Online Poker Forum at Full Tilt Poker