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Gaminator22
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Learning Horse Strategy Reply with quote

Hi

I play No Limit Hold Em but I'm pretty interested in the HORSE games.

I pretty much know how to play them all through the play chip games but are there any good books/websites where I can pick up good strategy from.

I don't want to move from play chip to real money using strategy picked up on those tables.
Thanks
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Zophar
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You pretty much need to learn each game independently. There are plenty of basic books, like SS 1 & 2 that cover each game a little, but they're only general starting points imo.

Seven card stud for advanced players, Ray Zee's O8/Stud/8 book and sklanskys LHE book are all good for more advanced play. There's nothing really good written about razz(imo)
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Gaminator22
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that.

Forgot Hold Em is Limit too in HORSE, bummer something else to learn!
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grimm860
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Play chips are actually a very good place to play and learn Horse. The money games don't play all that much different imo. The books Zophar mentioned would be a big help and good reads

You'll always have maniacal players and others learning at low stakes. Make sure you come up with a good system to get used to noticing the game changes. specially multi-tabling
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Gaminator22
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blimey I should be great at Stud & Razz then - Will have to behave during Omaha, I'm awful at Pot Limit and can't imagine being much better at Limit.

What system do you use for flagging up game changes in multi table, I've read some horror stories about people mistaking Stud & Razz!
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grimm860
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaminator22 wrote:
Blimey I should be great at Stud & Razz then - Will have to behave during Omaha, I'm awful at Pot Limit and can't imagine being much better at Limit.

What system do you use for flagging up game changes in multi table, I've read some horror stories about people mistaking Stud & Razz!


If you are talking about horse, there is no PLO. Most, if not all horse games are limit. I believe I have seen some special tournies otherwise.

When multi-tabling, slow down before you act. There will be a dealer message when the game changes, this is the easiet to miss. There will be a message posted across the table when the next game is about to change, this is also easy to miss. The game is posted in the middle of the table, but can be hidden by sidepots or other tables if you're cascading. The info bar at the top of the page(table) is the most reliable. If you always look at it before you act, you'll know what game you're playing.

Pay attn to who is bringing-in. The same cards will bring-in for stud and stud eight. This is the game change easiest to miss,
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VRod105
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The FTP Tournament Strategy Guide is a good book that covers all the games.
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DforDissent
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zophar wrote:

There's nothing really good written about razz(imo)


[ ] True statement

[x] Wish that was still a true statement

[x] Play Chips at the 1000/2000 level and up is actually a good place to practice

[x] $5 HORSE sng (but not MTTs!) another good place to practice


Wink
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Zophar
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DforDissent wrote:
Zophar wrote:

There's nothing really good written about razz(imo)


[ ] True statement

[x] Wish that was still a true statement

[x] Play Chips at the 1000/2000 level and up is actually a good place to practice

[x] $5 HORSE sng (but not MTTs!) another good place to practice


Wink

That's why I said imo. The Razz section ins Sklansky on Poker is alright. There's also some new book out that again I've heard is just alright. So, I'll stand by my statement that there's nothing really good written about Razz. There's some ok basic stuff, but nothing really good. imo
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VRod105
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Ted Forrest, "All the good Razz players are dead."
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