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Sawkarina1
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These must be going really fast, I searched for you within 10 minutes of your posting and you were no longer playing?
Maybe a tourney ID# would help. Also maybe updating your OP and updating the $$ amounts following your list  |
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dino210
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| Sawkarina1 wrote: |
These must be going really fast, I searched for you within 10 minutes of your posting and you were no longer playing?
Maybe a tourney ID# would help. Also maybe updating your OP and updating the $$ amounts following your list |
You could always check the spreadsheet, ya know ? |
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marsupial311
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| Mikah wrote: |
48.registering to play now.Busted out on first hand when villain raised 3 x BB under gun with AK(usually players at these donkaments,only have A2+,KT+,QT+ JT+ 55+ when they raise under gun or shove first hand.I reraised to 600(because usually players will donk reraise shove crap first hand)with JJ,AK reraises all in.I call,my hand doesnt hold up,and out I go.
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That's a lot of words for "All in PF JJ lost a flip to AK" |
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PJs Ronin
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| Mikah wrote: |
48.registering to play now.Busted out on first hand when villain raised 3 x BB under gun with AK(usually players at these donkaments,only have A2+,KT+,QT+ JT+ 55+ when they raise under gun or shove first hand.I reraised to 600(because usually players will donk reraise shove crap first hand)with JJ,AK reraises all in.I call,my hand doesnt hold up,and out I go.
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That's a lot of words for "All in PF JJ lost a flip to AK" |
48. out AK<JJ. |
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Mikah
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Joined: 10 Jul 2008
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Location: Spokane,WA,USA
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| Sawkarina1 wrote: |
These must be going really fast, I searched for you within 10 minutes of your posting and you were no longer playing?
Maybe a tourney ID# would help. Also maybe updating your OP and updating the $$ amounts following your list |
Tourney ID number is not needed.I use the find player thing,and it works just fine.
Just enter my screen name of Mikah and the find player thing will show you tourneys I am registered in.Click on that,and it take you to the tourney lobby.
I am going to update the running bankroll total after the 50th Sat.
Also you can click on the link that takes you to the spreadsheet dino provided,and that will tell you what you want t know as well. |
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francois8
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Mikah, stop telling everyone that they do everyting wrong. OK? Thanks. |
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Mikah
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ULTIMATE BS CRAP DONKBEAT:
50.registering now.Donk beat out by a donk who has been raising and calling and going all in and calling all in with any 2 semi marginal cards,suited connectors,suited 1 gappers,76+,86,87,97,98,108,109,J10+ 22+ A2+,K2+Q2+ he had donk beat 2 other players out.And he donked me out when he raises 66 under gun to 270 with the blinds 20/40.I reraise all in 2300 chips with JJ,because I know he will donk call.He donk call with his 66,even though I had only played 3 hands out of 13 to 17 hands dealt to me.we both hit a set on the flop,and the turn gives him bs crap quad 6's to donkbeat me his 3rd or 4th donk beat out.Talk about bs crap buluck.with his butluck and a 8000 chips stack,he is well on his way to donkbeating everyone out until he donk cashes.
oh yeah got to love those 1 out .001% chance to win suckouts.
And if it has to happen to somebody,it will happen to me. |
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francois8
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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ULTIMATE BS CRAP DONKBEAT:
50.registering now.Donk beat out by a donk who has been raising and calling and going all in and calling all in with any 2 semi marginal cards,suited connectors,suited 1 gappers,76+,86,87,97,98,108,109,J10+ 22+ A2+,K2+Q2+ he had donk beat 2 other players out.And he donked me out when he raises 66 under gun to 270 with the blinds 20/40.I reraise all in 2300 chips with JJ,because I know he will donk call.He donk call with his 66,even though I had only played 3 hands out of 13 to 17 hands dealt to me.we both hit a set on the flop,and the turn gives him bs crap quad 6's to donkbeat me his 3rd or 4th donk beat out.Talk about bs crap buluck.with his butluck and a 8000 chips stack,he is well on his way to donkbeating everyone out until he donk cashes.
oh yeah got to love those 1 out .001% chance to win suckouts.
And if it has to happen to somebody,it will happen to me. |
HH please. He was 19% to win when money went in. Also, unless you're playing with a 100,000 card deck then your 0.001% is mistaken.
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dino210
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ULTIMATE BS CRAP DONKBEAT:
50.registering now.Donk beat out by a donk who has been raising and calling and going all in and calling all in with any 2 semi marginal cards,suited connectors,suited 1 gappers,76+,86,87,97,98,108,109,J10+ 22+ A2+,K2+Q2+ he had donk beat 2 other players out.And he donked me out when he raises 66 under gun to 270 with the blinds 20/40.I reraise all in 2300 chips with JJ,because I know he will donk call.He donk call with his 66,even though I had only played 3 hands out of 13 to 17 hands dealt to me.we both hit a set on the flop,and the turn gives him bs crap quad 6's to donkbeat me his 3rd or 4th donk beat out.Talk about bs crap buluck.with his butluck and a 8000 chips stack,he is well on his way to donkbeating everyone out until he donk cashes. |
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marsupial311
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3/13 = 23%
3/17 = 17.6%
Not super tight by any means along with being a fairly small sample size, people at these stakes don't pay attention, etc. |
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Mikah
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Mikah wrote: |
ULTIMATE BS CRAP DONKBEAT:
50.registering now.Donk beat out by a donk who has been raising and calling and going all in and calling all in with any 2 semi marginal cards,suited connectors,suited 1 gappers,76+,86,87,97,98,108,109,J10+ 22+ A2+,K2+Q2+ he had donk beat 2 other players out.And he donked me out when he raises 66 under gun to 270 with the blinds 20/40.I reraise all in 2300 chips with JJ,because I know he will donk call.He donk call with his 66,even though I had only played 3 hands out of 13 to 17 hands dealt to me.we both hit a set on the flop,and the turn gives him bs crap quad 6's to donkbeat me his 3rd or 4th donk beat out.Talk about bs crap buluck.with his butluck and a 8000 chips stack,he is well on his way to donkbeating everyone out until he donk cashes.
oh yeah got to love those 1 out .001% chance to win suckouts.
And if it has to happen to somebody,it will happen to me. |
HH please. He was 19% to win when money went in. Also, unless you're playing with a 100,000 card deck then your 0.001% is mistaken. |
the exxagerated 001% chance to win was after the flop,with my trips J's on board he only has 1 out to suck out on the turn or river,that means he had a 3% chance to win after the flop.Yes he has a 17 to 19% chance to win preflop when the money went in,but after the flop that percentage dropped to 3%.If the flop hadnt hit trips 6's and trips J's,and hadnt then hit the bs quads,and had instead hit trips 6's to bad beat me,that wouldnt be as bad,because its more reasonable according to probabilities to get beat by trips then to have both trips hit and then quads hit.the odds of trips hitting and me not hitting trips is about 1 out of 90.The odds of both trips hitting is like about 1 out of 900.The odds of both trips hitting and then his quads hitting is like about 1 out of 9,000 to 90,000.
Also Fran, a HH is most definately not needed here.Also the HH doesnt tell the story here.IF go by strictly the HH,one could say that I miplayed the hand because the under gun raise coul easily crush the JJ that I had,and so it bad that I reraised 2300 chips with blinds 20/40 all in over under gun raiser with just JJ.
However if 1 ignores the HH,and focuses on the situation where the donk had been donking it up big time,and since donk had donk called all in before,then reraising with JJ all in over donks 66 under gun 8 x BB raise,i good,because you know there is like a 93 to 97% chance donk has a way worse hand then JJ,and that if you reraise all in,there is like a 80 to 90% chance donk will call,and that when donk calls,there is 90% chace you have donk totally crushed,with a 90% chance to double up to 4700 chips.
This is as cut and dried and clear as the JJ losing a coinflip to AK,all in preflop 1st hand.And just like HH wasnt needed for that hand,HH is not needed for this hand.
HH is NOT needed for every bust out hand.
Now if you still want me to post this specific HH,I will do so,but doing so is a total waste of everyones time including mine,and is moot and pointless. |
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Sawkarina1
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Sawkarina1 wrote: |
These must be going really fast, I searched for you within 10 minutes of your posting and you were no longer playing?
Maybe a tourney ID# would help. Also maybe updating your OP and updating the $$ amounts following your list |
Tourney ID number is not needed.I use the find player thing,and it works just fine.
Just enter my screen name of Mikah and the find player thing will show you tourneys I am registered in.Click on that,and it take you to the tourney lobby.
I am going to update the running bankroll total after the 50th Sat.
Also you can click on the link that takes you to the spreadsheet dino provided,and that will tell you what you want t know as well. |
Mikah, this is why you get no respect, you just want to say what you want to say without paying attention.
I dont need instructions on how to search for player. I told you I DID IT and you werent listed. Seeing as you rarely if ever play more than one at a time, I found it quite odd, especially since there is no way to check which tourneys you say you won.
In addition, instead of writing your usual essay justifying your play, just write JJ<AK or whatever and fill in the OP with won/lost. Period.
No sense you keeping that running total on your main page if it isnt correct. At least Dino is keeping up. |
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dino210
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| Do I see a lack of a certain HH in your essey mikah? How surprising... |
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Sawkarina1
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Mikah wrote: |
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ULTIMATE BS CRAP DONKBEAT:
50.registering now.Donk beat out by a donk who has been raising and calling and going all in and calling all in with any 2 semi marginal cards,suited connectors,suited 1 gappers,76+,86,87,97,98,108,109,J10+ 22+ A2+,K2+Q2+ he had donk beat 2 other players out.And he donked me out when he raises 66 under gun to 270 with the blinds 20/40.I reraise all in 2300 chips with JJ,because I know he will donk call.He donk call with his 66,even though I had only played 3 hands out of 13 to 17 hands dealt to me.we both hit a set on the flop,and the turn gives him bs crap quad 6's to donkbeat me his 3rd or 4th donk beat out.Talk about bs crap buluck.with his butluck and a 8000 chips stack,he is well on his way to donkbeating everyone out until he donk cashes.
oh yeah got to love those 1 out .001% chance to win suckouts.
And if it has to happen to somebody,it will happen to me. |
HH please. He was 19% to win when money went in. Also, unless you're playing with a 100,000 card deck then your 0.001% is mistaken. |
the exxagerated 001% chance to win was after the flop,with my trips J's on board he only has 1 out to suck out on the turn or river,that means he had a 3% chance to win after the flop.Yes he has a 17 to 19% chance to win preflop when the money went in,but after the flop that percentage dropped to 3%.If the flop hadnt hit trips 6's and trips J's,and hadnt then hit the bs quads,and had instead hit trips 6's to bad beat me,that wouldnt be as bad,because its more reasonable according to probabilities to get beat by trips then to have both trips hit and then quads hit.the odds of trips hitting and me not hitting trips is about 1 out of 90.The odds of both trips hitting is like about 1 out of 900.The odds of both trips hitting and then his quads hitting is like about 1 out of 9,000 to 90,000.
Also Fran, a HH is most definately not needed here.Also the HH doesnt tell the story here.IF go by strictly the HH,one could say that I miplayed the hand because the under gun raise coul easily crush the JJ that I had,and so it bad that I reraised 2300 chips with blinds 20/40 all in over under gun raiser with just JJ.
However if 1 ignores the HH,and focuses on the situation where the donk had been donking it up big time,and since donk had donk called all in before,then reraising with JJ all in over donks 66 under gun 8 x BB raise,i good,because you know there is like a 93 to 97% chance donk has a way worse hand then JJ,and that if you reraise all in,there is like a 80 to 90% chance donk will call,and that when donk calls,there is 90% chace you have donk totally crushed,with a 90% chance to double up to 4700 chips.
This is as cut and dried and clear as the JJ losing a coinflip to AK,all in preflop 1st hand.And just like HH wasnt needed for that hand,HH is not needed for this hand.
HH is NOT needed for every bust out hand.
Now if you still want me to post this specific HH,I will do so,but doing so is a total waste of everyones time including mine,and is moot and pointless. |
Post the HH and that is enough. I showed you how to do it without the hard drive and you now know how to convert as well, thats all thats necessary, not you writing an essay trying to justify bad play, EVERY TIME.
For God's sake man, just do it! |
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Mikah
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| marsupial311 wrote: |
3/13 = 23%
3/17 = 17.6%
Not super tight by any means along with being a fairly small sample size, people at these stakes don't pay attention, etc. |
Point I was making if I had been him,I would have noticed and thought "gee this guy hardly ever plays a hand,and this is like only his 1st or 2nd time raising and its a reraise all in at that.So my 66 is beat here.I fold." Then I fold.
I also wouldnt raise 66 under gun up to 270 chips with blinds being 20/40.
I also wouldnt be raising nd calling and shoving all in and calling all in with his crazy insane donk range of hands.
But thats also the main reason why I reraised all in with JJ,I knew he would call.
And 17 to 23% see the flop or hands played without seeing the flop is very tight in a 3 minute blinds turbo.In a 6 minute blinds format,its between tight an semi tight,and in 10 minute blinds,its semi tight to semi moderate,and in a 12 minute blinds its semi moderate to moderate.And in a 15 minute blinds its moderate.And in 17 to 20 minute blinds its moderate to semi loose. |
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