Online Poker Forum - ITM fifty-fifty, shortstacked

tracysanders · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:46 am Post subject: ITM fifty-fifty, shortstacked

UTG+1 was fairly solid, he had however shown his ability to fold to reshoves and 3bets preflop on numerous occasions.

CO was a complete idiot as you should be able to tell by his flat-call, he had limp/called into probably 40% of flops with mediocre hands and had an uncanny ability to outflop people most of the time.

Button was Stuart Paterson, an ftp red pro- this in itself should demand respect but I was not overly impressed with what I had seen from him since being moved to his table. He seemed to have no concept of position, and would call down anything with top pair regardless of his kicker he had previously spewed off 90% of his stack to me (before chipping back up obv) with K7 on a K23QA board after I had flopped a set of 2s. The only reason he was still there is I tried to let him reshove me on the river because I thought the A would have hit his range hard, so I made a half pot river bet which he flatted much to my chagrin.

I was planning on reshoving over UTG+1 and CO here, when stuart made his move- with 5M do I have the stack to let this go and wait, or should I assume Stuart is squeezing light with almost ATC and call it hoping to have him dominated or flipping for my double up?

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 600/1,200 Blinds, 150 Ante, 8 Players
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MP1: 36,086
MP2: 30,206
CO: 50,870
BTN: 28,276
SB: 38,400
Hero (BB): 15,343
UTG: 29,670
UTG+1: 17,914

Pre-Flop: (3,000) 9 Club

9

dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to 2,899, MP1 folds, CO calls 2,899, BTN raises to 28,126 and is All-In, 2 folds, Hero ???????

lovebeefstew · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:18 am Post subject:

Patterson never has ATC. But I assume he can definately be squeezing light. With your stack, I call and hope to flip against Patterson.

bigpairde · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:20 am Post subject:

i fold. my concern isnt BTN, but that i am very likely to have to show down my 99 in a multiway pot, so not good flipping, (since this will be a juicy call for utg+1 and co)
and as much as i hate to say this, but imo there are better spots we can wait for

Pete D · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:32 am Post subject:

Yeah, I think I'm calling here albeit not ecstatic about it because your M is getting dangerously low. You're already ITM, so it's time to gambol. And there's a load of dead money in the pot. If Stuart has a big pair, you almost hope that UTG+1 has a big pair too because you're going to need to spike your nine anyway... how sweet it would be to triple up.

If you fold this hand to wait for a better spot... you may very well have to wait one or two more orbits for a nice hand... and even then if you double up, you're probably going to be near 20k (only slightly more than what you have now).

Pete D · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:42 am Post subject:

dcdoorknob · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:53 am Post subject:

I like a call here. From the descriptions I can't be convinced that any of their ranges have us beat. Sounds like a great time to go big or go home.

Pete D · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject:

Question for tracy and big... do you snap call with JJ here? Certainly QQ, right?

adam27x · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject:

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I call here pretty quickly and am happy about it. Very easy spot to squeeze light from button (which isn't a high level concept whatsoever) and 99 is definitely ahead of that range. UTG+1 is likely not good at all, but I see stack sizes like that r/f a lot even though they obviously shouldn't. He has to have an absolutely premium hand to call a squeeze and a caller. We're greatly ahead of their ranges. CO is negligible if he's bad. If he's good this is a fold. Flatting to induce a squeeze and planning on calling is a great play from his spot with stack sizes behind, but he probably isn't that good.

Pete D · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject:

Pete D · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:25 am Post subject:

Tracy- Did you fold this hand? If so, what pocket pair are you calling with?... I'm curious because we're obviously afraid of running into a monster (AA-QQ), which makes me think that 99 & JJ are essentially the same hand in this spot.

And with an M of 5, folding JJ doesn't seem like a good option.

Agree? Disagree?

tracysanders · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:41 am Post subject:

stlbirds13 · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:38 am Post subject:

I agree, I think you have to call and hope for a flip. I also agree with your assesment that I probably fold >55 also, he may be squeezing with aX i.e a-7, if that is the case you are in a great spot. But if you call with 55, 44 etc. then at best you are looking at a flip and you could potentially be completely dominated. I'm guessing UTG +1 folded?

adam27x · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:58 am Post subject:

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