Online Poker Forum - I keep on getting counterfeited!

dl_m0nk · Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject: I keep on getting counterfeited!

I need to get some steam off. When will I stop getting counterfeited?! It's ridiculous! It never effin fails! I read in SS when you have A-2-X-X you will get counterfeited 70%, A-2-3-X, counterfeited 30% of the time but it seems like I'm getting countered more than 70%. I honestly CANNOT make a low! It doesn't matter what I do or my opponents do its either deuce or A on the turn or river, sometimes right on the flop.
Seriously, its like FTP has a red flag on my account that says "DO NOT LET THIS GUY MAKE A LO, HE WILL GET FULL VALUE AND MAKE MONEY".

Here's mother of all examples of how my lo draws are going:

It might be somewhat of a loose call by most standards but at this level with a bunch of tightwads willing to see the flop I wanted to see it also. I don't think a raise would've made sense here because I don't have many high possibilities. I gotta hope to god that it comes all 456 diamonds or non-suited or lower for a scoop and thats a slim chance.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Converter Tool from

MP ($0.69)
CO ($2.73)
Button ($2.22)
SB ($1.03)
BB ($0.77)
Hero (UTG) ($2.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2

, A

, 3

, 4

Hero calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.10) 10

, 4

, 2

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.10) A

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, siiiiigh Crying or Very sad

Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

River: ($0.10) 10

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.02, CO calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero folds

showed [As Js 6h 6c] and won ($0.07) with HI: two pair, Aces and Tens

showed [5s 7s Kh 7h] and won ($0.07) with HI: two pair, Tens and Sevens; LO: 7,5,4,2,A

Total pot: $0.14 | Rake: $0

I stared at this for a few seconds....at my cards, at the board, back at my cards, at the board again...Are u kidding me?COUNTERFEIT! COUNTERFEIT! COUNTERFEIT! And then my high gets countered with 2nd ten. Can anyone please tell me the percentage of this happening? Nevermind the 2nd ten, just the lo. My guess is around 12-15%. I could post a whole page of more examples but I'll save you all the torture. SWEET JESUS, IT NEVER FAILS! WHY?! I it happens so much I'm afraid to raise with the hands I'm supposed to. Well, at least I'm making a hi once in a while and getting all that I can out of the chasing donkeys who can't even read Dr. Seuss books let alone the hand. But this is starting to become an obsession. I want to stack a donk with the nut lo...I don't care if I get 1/2 the pot...scoop would be great but I want to see myself not get countered at least once.

please please Full Tilt may I make a lo at least 1 out of 3 hands? Stop counterfeiting me so much! REALLY, PLEASE?
FTP: NO YOU WILL NOT MAKE A LO AND LIKE IT.
oh ok thanks anyways Sad

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Zophar · Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject:

Well, I'd probably play it 100% differently. Raise preflop, pot the flop, bet/jam the turn.

francois8 · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject:

Ignoring the pf play for a moment, Why in god's name did you check that flop? You've got two pair, 16-out nut low draw, and an open-ended straight draw. You are allowed to play for the high end of the pot as well....

Then that turn card hits, you've got three pair, bet again! Quit giving free cards.

cubbies760 · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject:

I don't know how you could be upset because of getting couterfeited on this hand. You didn't begin building a pot PF, you let it check around OTF with a good drawing shot at scooping, and you let it check around again OTT with Aces Up and a decent low draw/straight draw.

Dude, the pot has 10 cents in it because you're sitting there waiting for the wheel. When you hit the wheel w/ the nut low, you aren't going to win shjt because there's nothing in the pot, as well as your hand basically being face up with (3) wheel cards on the board.

theozhang · Pair Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Posts: 48

Raise pre and your life becomes about 100x easier.

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