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CVOG1966
Full House
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 162
Location: Virginia
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 Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: How Would You Play This Hand? |
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 First off i don't play Omaha H/L very often, this hand was from a $5 buy-in HORSE tourney.
7 players at table
i have a stack of 1,754
limits are 100/200
Omaha H/L
hero dealt [ Kd 7h Qc Kc ]
UTG and UTG + 1 calls 100
MP1 player folds
MP2 player calls 100
hero calls 100 in the cutoff seat
small blind calls 50
big blind (villian) checks
***FLOP*** [6s Qs Ks]
small blind checks
villian bets 100
UTG folds
UTG + 1 calls
MP2 raises to 200
hero calls 200
small blind folds
villian calls an additional 100
***TURN*** [6s Qs Ks] [6d]
villian bets 200
MP2 calls 200
hero raises to 400
villian raises to 600
MP2 calls another 400
hero raises to 800
villian and MP2 both call another 200
***RIVER*** [6s Qs Ks 6d] [8d]
villian bets 200
MP2 folds
hero raises to 400
villian raises to 600
hero raises to 654. and is all in
villian calls 54
***SHOWDOWN***
hero shows [Kd 7h Qc Kc] a full house, Kings full of Sixes
villian shows [6h 4s Kh 6c] four of a kind, Queens
villian wins the pot (5,008) with four of a kind, Sixes
Did i make a very bad play or did i simply run into an even bigger monster hand?
Any thoughts or comments would be more than welcome. |
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sixandfour
Royal Flush
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: How Would You Play This Hand? |
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| CVOG1966 wrote: |
villian shows [6h 4s Kh 6c] four of a kind, Queens
villian wins the pot (5,008) with four of a kind, Sixes
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How the heck did that happen?
But to answer your question, it's pretty much a cooler. You flopped top set on a flushed board, got your boat and got 'em in. You played it fine IMO, just got unlucky running into that. |
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Penoyer79
Two Pair
Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| i will fold every Omaha H.L hand that doenst have an Ace. |
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vectorspace
Royal Flush
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Posts: 918
Location: Texas
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Penoyer79 wrote: |
| i will fold every Omaha H.L hand that doenst have an Ace. |
Some hands without an Ace are playable. This is not one of them, however, fold it preflop. KKQJ, KKJT, or KKQT would be ok to play. The 7 really lowers the value of this hand. It's what is known as a dangler; it doesn't coordinate at all with the other 3 cards. Think of it this way. You're playing KK, KQ, K7, or Q7. Two of those hands are very weak. If you had KKQJ instead, you could play KK, KQ, KJ, or QJ, all pretty strong hands. Those 4 hands are much more premium than the 4 hands you have.
Even having the KcQc is nothing to get excited about as everyone plays Ace little suited in O8 and you'll often run into the nut flush when you do make a flush.
As for postflop play, yeah it's a cooler. I'm pumping up the pot and never folding the nut fh. If you run into quads, you just run into quads. In my mind, he could just as easily have QQ or K6 or maybe even a weaker Q6 or even a flush if he's a donk. |
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cubbies760
Drawing Dead
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Penoyer79 wrote: |
| i will fold every Omaha H.L hand that doenst have an Ace. |
That's a pretty stupid philosophy, but so noted. |
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BBCOACH44
Full Tilt Coach
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Posts: 7434
Location: IN THE BATTING CAGE W/ DA ROOKIES
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| TY...very interesting. |
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0Archetype0
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It is my feeling that with the odds being stacked against that occurence happening means that you made a very good play, but just got very unlucky.
Quads isnt a common occurence even in Omaha and if you played that hand out many times after you flopped your house you would come out of it with much more chips than you started most-(more than most but a bit less than all) of the time. |
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mary kelly
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| vectorspace wrote: |
| Penoyer79 wrote: |
| i will fold every Omaha H.L hand that doenst have an Ace. |
Some hands without an Ace are playable. This is not one of them, however, fold it preflop. KKQJ, KKJT, or KKQT would be ok to play. The 7 really lowers the value of this hand. It's what is known as a dangler; it doesn't coordinate at all with the other 3 cards. Think of it this way. You're playing KK, KQ, K7, or Q7. Two of those hands are very weak. If you had KKQJ instead, you could play KK, KQ, KJ, or QJ, all pretty strong hands. Those 4 hands are much more premium than the 4 hands you have.
Even having the KcQc is nothing to get excited about as everyone plays Ace little suited in O8 and you'll often run into the nut flush when you do make a flush.
As for postflop play, yeah it's a cooler. I'm pumping up the pot and never folding the nut fh. If you run into quads, you just run into quads. In my mind, he could just as easily have QQ or K6 or maybe even a weaker Q6 or even a flush if he's a donk. |
Thanks for a great O8 strategic post. |
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