Online Poker Forum - How many points do you have? How long did it take?...advice

vectorspace · Royal Flush Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 918 Location: Texas

Edit: 2 new challenges added today. Phil Gordon's guide to MTT's and Howard Lederer's guide to NLHE cash games. They both are really easy though. I should have these finished in no time. That would make 22600 credits the maximum amount possible.

cardplayer52 · Four of a Kind Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 308

Zarken_Ventreth · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:28 am Post subject:

The two new challenges will easily get you 1000 points but unless you cash in 30 tournaments they will cost you more than you will gain by completing them!

Count me as disapointed!

Zark

NoTilt · Four of a Kind Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 297

EV of the new challenges isn't THAT bad. By playing 3 MTTs, you get a kickback of 50 AP, which is equivalent of 50 FTP, which is about 25 cents worth of value. (The conversions were done using the academy store to buy FTP, which is a 1-to-1 trade, followed by using the FTP to enter one of the MSOP games, which all seem to trade the equivalent of 2 FTP for 1 penny.) If you're really cheap, there are a few $1 tournaments out there that have no fee, plus the daily dollar, which adds money if there's fewer than 10000 people.

Just remember - MTTs will cause a HUGE variance in your bankroll. That's why Ferguson recommends only spending 1/50th of your bankroll on any one tournament. STTs have a smaller variance, which is why Ferguson will let you spend up to 1/20th of your bankroll.

Another way to look at this is to remember that you need to play more MTTs to judge your skill level in them. If you're up in your bankroll after your first 10 MTTs, you could still be a losing MTT player...and if you're down, you could still be a winning MTT player. STTs converge much more quickly.

vectorspace · Royal Flush Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 918 Location: Texas

cannonwillow · Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:01 am Post subject:

make it a kick back of 30 ap, and for some reason i cant get the turbo MTT to give me credit

800 new points

rubslotionskin · Pair Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 34

im at 15,741....its soooooo tempting to take the ftps, and i probably would if i knew i could earn 25k ap, but alas, the $100 bonus is more important than ftps......the new challenges dont do much for me....just working on sizing up opponents....should be getting the bonus any day now..........anyone know how many ftps i'll need to earn once i get the bonus, to clear it?

challenges left: power of position, 5 common leaks, sizing up opponents, guide to mtts/cash, completed others 10x each.

8844783 · Pair Joined: 20 Jun 2009 Posts: 43

Zarken_Ventreth · Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject:

I know it's not a lot compared to what many have earned... However, I just crossed the 3000 pt mark as I am nearly half-way through completing all of the challenges (including both of the new ones) twice each. My plan has always been to complete them all at each step (1-10) in order to gain maximum benefit from the lessons learned through completing each challenge. I suppose it is easier to simply knock out the easier challenges 10 times and then go back to the remaining ones. I simply don't think that I would gain as much knowledge and experience by doing it that way. By forcing myself to return to each challenge, at each of the 10 steps to total completion, I am helping to plug leaks in my game that otherwise might have gone unrecognized had I chosen to complete some of the challenges 10 times in a row. Just my opinion. What do you all think about doing it this way?

Zark

vectorspace · Royal Flush Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 918 Location: Texas

Nice approach zarken. I did the complete opposite though. I found a challenge I liked or that fit my style of play and did it ten times. Then moved on to the next until they were all done. I did the SNG challenges last because I don't like SNG's as much as ring games. But gl to you in completing them.

tarl cabot · Two Pair Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 56

NoTilt · Four of a Kind Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 297

I've done the BR challenge 10 times that way cabot...I only with that my bankroll had increased by (5/4)^10 times.

vectorspace · Royal Flush Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 918 Location: Texas

I can also verify that this works for the pro play of the BRM challenge. Have a different challenge active. Sit down with at least 25% of your BR at a ring game. The smartest tables to do this at are either a NL or PL game that has a cap, or a fixed limit table that is within your bankroll. At either of these tables, you can sit with however much you want. Once you've posted a blind or ante, make the BRM challenge active. Then stand up from your game and you will get credit for that task.

NoTilt · Four of a Kind Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 297

You don't even need to post a blind or ante. Pick challenge X. Sit at an empty table with most of your money. Then pick BRM. Stand up. If you have $100 and sit at table X with $90, BRM sees that you have 10 when you start it and thinks you earned 90 at the tables. It only detects the top number in the cashier, not the middle or bottom numbers.

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