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OutKasts
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 Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject: Help me on this hand... |
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I been on a sick Downswing and haven't been playing my A game....Should I just open jam here in this spot? this level of the tourney? I was going to raise and call or play any flop.should I have raised more at least half my stack? help me find my mistake... 
http://www.handconverter.com/hands/329862 |
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richlynx
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Help me on this hand... |
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| OutKasts wrote: |
I been on a sick Downswing and haven't been playing my A game....Should I just open jam here in this spot? this level of the tourney? I was going to raise and call or play any flop.should I have raised more at least half my stack ? help me find my mistake...
http://www.handconverter.com/hands/329862 |
I wouldnt raise half my stack i think if your going to do that u might aswell just push allin
As for the hand allin pre or fold |
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OutKasts
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Help me on this hand... |
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| richlynx wrote: |
| OutKasts wrote: |
I been on a sick Downswing and haven't been playing my A game....Should I just open jam here in this spot? this level of the tourney? I was going to raise and call or play any flop.should I have raised more at least half my stack ? help me find my mistake...
http://www.handconverter.com/hands/329862 |
I wouldnt raise half my stack i think if your going to do that u might aswell just push allin
As for the hand allin pre or fold |
^^^^^ So where was my mistake? PREFLOP? didn't raise all in? FLOP bet ? |
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Big Slick x13x
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Shove preflop and be way happy about it. AJ with an M of < 5 is HUGE. |
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TinkyTyler
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Anything but shoving preflop is bad imo. |
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OutKasts
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| So my main mistake was not shoving all in PRE? |
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JJsell
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| yes this is what they are saying. just get it allin pf and be happy. by not going allin pf you put yourself in a situation where you have missed and dont know what to do. get it all in pf and your opponents will have to make the tough decisions |
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francois8
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| OutKasts wrote: |
| So my main mistake was not shoving all in PRE? |
Yes. Once you raise at all M < 5, then your committed to the hand. So get all your chips in preflop if you're going to play at all. |
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stlbirds13
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Joined: 06 Apr 2008
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Location: on the wrong side of the coin
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| I agree with what everyone has said, either shove pre or fold, but it seems to me that the Ms got screwed up somehow, it says blinds of 200/400 and hero has a stack of almost 5,000, i looked at other stacks and they seem wrong as well if you have an m more like 11, which is what i calculated, then I fold pre here I don't like shoving double digit big blinds with AJ UTG |
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TinkyTyler
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| it seems to me that the Ms got screwed up somehow, it says blinds of 200/400 and hero has a stack of almost 5,000, i looked at other stacks and they seem wrong as well if you have an m more like 11, which is what i calculated, then I fold pre here I don't like shoving double digit big blinds with AJ UTG |
Wat? The pot is 200+400+(9*50)=1050, and hero's stack is about 5000, so the M calculations are definitely correct. |
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bleffo19
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Location: SYD, Australia
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| I agree with what everyone has said, either shove pre or fold, but it seems to me that the Ms got screwed up somehow, it says blinds of 200/400 and hero has a stack of almost 5,000, i looked at other stacks and they seem wrong as well if you have an m more like 11, which is what i calculated, then I fold pre here I don't like shoving double digit big blinds with AJ UTG |
M is not number of BB's left. M is how many orbits you will survive if you played no hands. it takes into account the price for a full orbit (ie - BB, SB, and antes x no of people at table). this gives a more accurate view of how you stand. any M<10 is short-stacked, and an M<5 is critical. your M is 5-ish, so shoving is the only option |
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JDizzzle72
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| 13BBs prob just snapshove this pre |
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