Online Poker Forum - Feedback Hand #3

dodge these · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: Feedback Hand #3

Villain is runnin 96/80 over a rather small sample but def seem in a hurry to get rid of all his $$. He's either on major tilt or has too much $$ on his hands and figures the people at the table are better to donate 2 than charity. Either way that is why everyone is liming in at FR. I have only played one other hand in the past couple of orbits so assume I have a fairly tight image. Is trying to iso aginst the maniac and pick up the extra $$ assuming the other couple of callers fold a good idea with my hand?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 9 players -
The Official Hand History

CO: $100.00
BTN: $154.10
SB: $20.00
BB: $56.80
UTG: $256.40
UTG+1: $189.85
UTG+2: $43.65
Hero (MP1): $48.40
MP2: $39.00

CO posts a big blind ($1)

Pre Flop: ($2.50) Hero is MP1 with A Club

9

K

4

UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, UTG+2 calls $1, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, CO checks, BTN calls $1, 1 fold, BB raises to $8.50, UTG calls $7.50, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $7.50, Hero raises to $46, 2 folds, BB raises to $56.80 all in, 1 fold, UTG+2 requests TIME, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.40 all in

Flop: ($117.30) 8 Diamond

T

9

Turn: ($117.30) A Diamond

River: ($117.30) 6 Heart

francois8 · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject:

I think I fold this one to the 8.50 BB raise followed by two calls. But you got heads up with the guy who you read as a maniac with dead money in there.... which is good. But you're pretty much playing a two card hand AcKc. 9d isn't a bad card but it doesn't really help your hand much. And the 4h is useless. And you're against a guy who you know isn't going to fold based on your read.

This one seems a little reckless to me. (I'm still thinking about 1 and 2).

dodge these · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject:

I'm just gonna reply to this one and give a bit more detail but leav the others as is to wait for more replies. Bassically I think calling in what is at least a 4 way pot at this point is not really in option because as you point out my hand is not really all that strong and the other 2 callers actually seem like to of the tighter players. Therfore I am unlikely to be able to get them to make a big mistake if i do hit big on the flop, and I'm not that deep anyway. But for that same reason I was fairly certain they would fold if I was the one to shove because if they had a real hand they would have 4 bet after his anticipated raise to try and isolate because no hand is ever strong enough in plo to want to see a multi way pot if you can avoid it. So all that said I am still really looking to see whether playing AKs in Omaha against another random 4 cards is a good idea. As you said I am almost certain the other guy calls no matter what he has, so do I want to get it in with a hand like this against such a player?

bottlecapthief · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject:

I know you are eager to get in some pots with this guy before he busts/gets bored/leaves, but I do not think this is the optimal time. I wouldn't even limp with this hand here. Even if you have a tight image, you said everyone is limping in already. It's going to be common where someone is limping AAxx/KKxx/etc/big wraps and will not give up to your pressure. I also think UTG+2's stack is not favorable to get it in there. He has already limp called an 8.5x raise for 1/5 of his stack. I think this guy just sticks it in here too much to make this a good play.

Fold and wait for a better spot to trap.

HuJwang · Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject:

you're only 52% against 4 random cards. that's not much of an edge. when you consider how badly this hand does in a multiway pot, the chance that someone else picks up a decent hand and comes along with you has to make this a pretty bad spot. i wouldn't even limp since he is basicaly always going to raise.

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