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elcatalan
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 Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: Could have I played these hands any better? |
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I hope the fact the history is in italian isn't a problem... For if it's difficult to understand: punta = bets, vede = calls, passa = folds.
In Hand 1 villain is obviously a calling station and often plays marginal hands. That's about the 8th hand i was dealt and the first one I played. About the Hands 2 and 3 I don't remember how my opponents were playing.
Just please if there are some major mistakes don't be rude, if I were a very good player I would be playing $50/$100, if in the last 4 days I'm a losing player at these stakes obviously either I'm a donk or I'm on tilt (a combination of both could be possible, too).
Full Tilt Poker Game #10172753588: Table Banburry Cross - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Razz - 17:08:26 ET - 2009/01/21
Posto 1: MsCheddar ($6)
Posto 2: deo_non_fortuna ($4.75)
Posto 3: elcatalan ($3.75)
Posto 4: Defsey123 ($3.55)
Posto 5: betizfest ($4.05)
Posto 8: goshaigo ($4.05)
goshaigo mette l'ante di $0.05
deo_non_fortuna mette l'ante di $0.05
MsCheddar mette l'ante di $0.05
Defsey123 mette l'ante di $0.05
elcatalan mette l'ante di $0.05
betizfest mette l'ante di $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dato a MsCheddar [Ac]
Dato a deo_non_fortuna [9c]
Dato a elcatalan [4s 8c] [6d]
Dato a Defsey123 [3s]
Dato a betizfest [Kd]
Dato a goshaigo [Qh]
betizfest è Hi con [Kd]
betizfest effettua un bring-in di $0.10
goshaigo passa
MsCheddar passa
deo_non_fortuna passa
elcatalan completa fino a $0.25
Defsey123 vede $0.25
betizfest passa
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dato a elcatalan [4s 8c 6d] [5c]
Dato a Defsey123 [3s] [8s]
elcatalan punta $0.25
Defsey123 vede $0.25
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dato a elcatalan [4s 8c 6d 5c] [7h]
Dato a Defsey123 [3s 8s] [6h]
elcatalan punta $0.50
Defsey123 vede $0.50
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dato a elcatalan [4s 8c 6d 5c 7h] [8d]
Dato a Defsey123 [3s 8s 6h] [7c]
Defsey123 fa check
elcatalan punta $0.50
Defsey123 vede $0.50
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dato a elcatalan [4s 8c 6d 5c 7h 8d] [Td]
Defsey123 fa check
elcatalan fa check
*** SHOW DOWN ***
elcatalan mostra [Td 8c 6d 5c 7h 8d 4s] 8,7,6,5,4
Defsey123 mostra [Jc 4d 3s 8s 6h 7c 3d] 8,7,6,4,3
Defsey123 vince il piatto ($3.25) con 8,7,6,4,3
*** RIEPILOGO ***
Totale piatto $3.40 | Rake $0.15
Posto 1: MsCheddar ha passato su 3rd St.
Posto 2: deo_non_fortuna ha passato su 3rd St.
Posto 3: elcatalan ha mostrato [Td 8c 6d 5c 7h 8d 4s] e perso con 8,7,6,5,4
Posto 4: Defsey123 ha mostrato [Jc 4d 3s 8s 6h 7c 3d] e vinto ($3.25) con 8,7,6,4,3
Posto 5: betizfest ha passato su 3rd St.
Posto 8: goshaigo ha passato su 3rd St.
Full Tilt Poker Game #10107668698: Table Lacey Tree - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Razz - 4:57:08 ET - 2009/01/18
Posto 3: Electromanx1 ($6.90)
Posto 5: bounstr ($4.85)
Posto 8: elcatalan ($9.80)
Electromanx1 mette l'ante di $0.05
elcatalan mette l'ante di $0.05
bounstr mette l'ante di $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dato a Electromanx1 [2c]
Dato a bounstr [9h]
Dato a elcatalan [4s 9d] [2s]
bounstr è Hi con [9h]
bounstr completa fino a $0.25
elcatalan vede $0.25
Electromanx1 passa
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dato a bounstr [9h] [7h]
Dato a elcatalan [4s 9d 2s] [Jd]
bounstr punta $0.25
elcatalan vede $0.25
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dato a bounstr [9h 7h] [6h]
Dato a elcatalan [4s 9d 2s Jd] [6d]
bounstr punta $0.50
elcatalan vede $0.50
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dato a bounstr [9h 7h 6h] [6c]
Dato a elcatalan [4s 9d 2s Jd 6d] [7d]
elcatalan punta $0.50
bounstr rilancia fino a $1
elcatalan rilancia fino a $1.50
bounstr vede $0.50
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dato a elcatalan [4s 9d 2s Jd 6d 7d] [Ts]
elcatalan fa check
bounstr fa check
*** SHOW DOWN ***
elcatalan mostra [Ts 9d 2s Jd 6d 7d 4s] 9,7,6,4,2
bounstr mostra [9s 4c 9h 7h 6h 6c As] 9,7,6,4,A
bounstr vince il piatto ($4.90) con 9,7,6,4,A
*** RIEPILOGO ***
Totale piatto $5.15 | Rake $0.25
Posto 3: Electromanx1 ha passato su 3rd St.
Posto 5: bounstr ha mostrato [9s 4c 9h 7h 6h 6c As] e vinto ($4.90) con 9,7,6,4,A
Posto 8: elcatalan ha mostrato [Ts 9d 2s Jd 6d 7d 4s] e perso con 9,7,6,4,2
Full Tilt Poker Game #10113041116: Table Lacey Tree - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Razz - 13:08:53 ET - 2009/01/18
Posto 1: CeeDubnGG ($5.05)
Posto 2: scgs ($8.70)
Posto 3: tlpel ($4.45)
Posto 4: elcatalan ($3.40)
Posto 5: curtis53 ($9.55)
Posto 7: lazy_leon ($2.45)
Posto 8: QUADLADY ($7.10)
scgs mette l'ante di $0.05
curtis53 mette l'ante di $0.05
QUADLADY mette l'ante di $0.05
CeeDubnGG mette l'ante di $0.05
tlpel mette l'ante di $0.05
elcatalan mette l'ante di $0.05
lazy_leon mette l'ante di $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dato a CeeDubnGG [7s]
Dato a scgs [5h]
Dato a tlpel [2c]
Dato a elcatalan [As 4h] [2h]
Dato a curtis53 [3c]
Dato a lazy_leon [4c]
Dato a QUADLADY [6s]
CeeDubnGG è Hi con [7s]
CeeDubnGG effettua un bring-in di $0.10
scgs passa
tlpel vede $0.10
elcatalan completa fino a $0.25
curtis53 passa
lazy_leon rilancia fino a $0.50
QUADLADY passa
CeeDubnGG passa
tlpel vede $0.40
elcatalan vede $0.25
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dato a tlpel [2c] [Th]
Dato a elcatalan [As 4h 2h] [8s]
Dato a lazy_leon [4c] [2d]
lazy_leon punta $0.25
tlpel vede $0.25
elcatalan vede $0.25
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dato a tlpel [2c Th] [9s]
Dato a elcatalan [As 4h 2h 8s] [Jd]
Dato a lazy_leon [4c 2d] [4d]
tlpel fa check
elcatalan fa check
lazy_leon punta $0.50
tlpel vede $0.50
elcatalan vede $0.50
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dato a tlpel [2c Th 9s] [Qh]
Dato a elcatalan [As 4h 2h 8s Jd] [3h]
Dato a lazy_leon [4c 2d 4d] [9c]
elcatalan punta $0.50
lazy_leon vede $0.50
tlpel passa
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dato a elcatalan [As 4h 2h 8s Jd 3h] [Ad]
elcatalan punta $0.50
lazy_leon rilancia fino a $0.65 ed è all in
elcatalan vede $0.15
tlpel si alza
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lazy_leon mostra [7h 6h 4c 2d 4d 9c 3s] 7,6,4,3,2
elcatalan nasconde la mano
lazy_leon vince il piatto ($6.20) con 7,6,4,3,2
*** RIEPILOGO ***
Totale piatto $6.50 | Rake $0.30
Posto 1: CeeDubnGG ha passato su 3rd St.
Posto 2: scgs ha passato su 3rd St.
Posto 3: tlpel ha passato su 6th St.
Posto 4: elcatalan ha nascosto [4h As 2h 8s Jd 3h Ad] - 8,4,3,2,A
Posto 5: curtis53 ha passato su 3rd St.
Posto 7: lazy_leon ha mostrato [7h 6h 4c 2d 4d 9c 3s] e vinto ($6.20) con 7,6,4,3,2
Posto 8: QUADLADY ha passato su 3rd St. |
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Big Slick x13x
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| Nope you played those hands very well. Tough break. |
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philiveyfan5
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ahh well played and full tilt gave them a break, tough one, you're not a donk |
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sgspecial
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| philiveyfan5 wrote: |
| ahh well played and full tilt gave them a break, tough one, you're not a donk |
+1. There are some things you could have done better, but at this limit you will be way better than most. |
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francois8
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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First hand, I would play the same.
Second hand, rough beat but since you re-raised on 6th, go ahead and lead out on 7th as if you liked your last card. He'll probably call but at least give him a chance to lay down his 97. If he folds one time in ten your bet here makes money.
On the third hand, go ahead and re-raise on 3rd street. On 5th, once you check, go ahead and check raise on 5th once tlpel decides to call. If you bet and lazy leon raises, he'll fold. But as played, let him build the pot a little at a time to stick around with his T9. The hand is between you and leon, let Tlpel add some extra equity in there for you before he realizes how dead he is.
Minor differences, I'd say your play was fine and nothing you may have done differently would likely have changed the result... I'd have lost an extra $1 or so the way that I'd have played unless he folded the second hand.  |
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sgspecial
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| francois8 wrote: |
First hand, I would play the same.
Second hand, rough beat but since you re-raised on 6th, go ahead and lead out on 7th as if you liked your last card. He'll probably call but at least give him a chance to lay down his 97. If he folds one time in ten your bet here makes money.
On the third hand, go ahead and re-raise on 3rd street. On 5th, once you check, go ahead and check raise on 5th once tlpel decides to call. If you bet and lazy leon raises, he'll fold. But as played, let him build the pot a little at a time to stick around with his T9. The hand is between you and leon, let Tlpel add some extra equity in there for you before he realizes how dead he is.
Minor differences, I'd say your play was fine and nothing you may have done differently would likely have changed the result... I'd have lost an extra $1 or so the way that I'd have played unless he folded the second hand. |
Good post. I notice that your location isn't far from me. Do you know of any live games in the area that include razz? |
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francois8
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No, I've never seen a live Razz game myself, except on TV. I saw a SHOE game spread while in Vegas, I was drunk, don't even remember where I was at the time. But I remember being upset since I don't like SHOE, my favorite (and most profitable) part of HORSE comes from playing Razz against people who don't usually play it. Obviously at a Razz only table, the people who sit down should have more of an idea, though the games are still beatable.
As for a live game, I can't think of a better game to play live against people who are looking to gamble. I was I'll be sure to post it if I ever find one anywhere in AC. |
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sgspecial
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| francois8 wrote: |
| As for a live game, I can't think of a better game to play live against people who are looking to gamble. I was I'll be sure to post it if I ever find one anywhere in AC. |
Sadly, it is illegal in AC, and rarely ever spread on its own in a casino elsewhere. We include it as part of a rotation in my home game sometimes, but otherwise FT-P is the place to play. |
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