Online Poker Forum - big draw on the bubble... did i miss-play this?

Penoyer79 · Two Pair Joined: 27 Jul 2009 Posts: 65

should i have done anything different?

on the bubble in a 6 max $2 buy in...blinds are big and stack is short

Full Tilt Poker Game #15429863160: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (113129369), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:20:49 ET - 2009/10/18
Seat 1: Penoyer79 (1,635)
Seat 4: Betty012 (5,550)
Seat 5: walter1966 (1,815)
Betty012 posts the small blind of 60
walter1966 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Penoyer79 [Jd Td]
Penoyer79 raises to 360
Betty012 calls 300
walter1966 folds
*** FLOP *** [7d Kd Qs]
Betty012 bets 240
Penoyer79 raises to 1,275, and is all in
Betty012 calls 1,035
Penoyer79 shows [Jd Td]
Betty012 shows [Ah Kc]
*** TURN *** [7d Kd Qs] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [7d Kd Qs 7c] [8h]
Penoyer79 shows a pair of Sevens
Betty012 shows two pair, Kings and Sevens
Betty012 wins the pot (3,390) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Penoyer79 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,390 | Rake 0
Board: [7d Kd Qs 7c 8h]
Seat 1: Penoyer79 (button) showed [Jd Td] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: Betty012 (small blind) showed [Ah Kc] and won (3,390) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 5: walter1966 (big blind) folded before the Flop

Danduy · Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject:

My guess that you're posting this because you didn't make your hand.

What would you like to change if you could turn back time? Ask yourself this question with all the hands you play and you can figure out for yourself what went wrong.

- Would you just call in stead of raising?
Nope, he would be the one raising then. Be glad he didn't put you all-in before the flop.
He was somewhat passive imo, because he didn't reraise you. But then again, i don't know how the previous hands are played.

- Would you have called if he went all-in preflop?
If you would have called, you should have pushed yourself.

Flop play: No comment because you wouldn't have folded.

So answer: No wrong play here, you just want a pet on the back that you did well and it didn't work out for you.

Better luck next time.

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject:

Standard. Though I sometimes even just open-shove this PF. Definitely would if it were a turbo.

bleffo19 · Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject:

open-shove pre or fold please. don't like the raise, especially to 3x. you have a low M, and on the bubble should be looking to shove/fold with your stack. put the pressure on the other 2 - make them come up with a hand. if you had been playing tight and the other 2 were semi-passive, then shove. if you had been active and the other 2 had been calling you down light, then fold.

otf i don't think im ever folding this hand. i dont have pokerstove here, but i imagine you are getting great equity against almost any hand. i'm snap-shoving/calling a shove in almost every format of poker here.

oh - and please convert HH. makes them so much easier to read. check sticky at top of MTT forum

NilesMonkey · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:18 am Post subject:

I don't think this is always a shove-or-fold preflop. I would raise a little less, though.... I'd put it at around 300. That would still leave you with a workable stack if you needed to get away from the hand for some reason.

Flop is perfectly fine; you're actually the favorite here, and you're only a 60/40 dog against a set. Well played.

Penoyer79 · Two Pair Joined: 27 Jul 2009 Posts: 65

i don't like open shoving without an Ace, big king, or a pocket pair. too many times ive been dominated with j10.

plus my stack size wasnt big enough to put much pressure on the bigstack.. a shot stack raising without going all-in can sometimes be precieved as more strength (i seen super short stacks mini raise with monsters all the time at this level.)

plus my image was good and i was getting a lot of respect. i was hoping i could pick up a pot without having to put my stack at risk preflop..

i dont really pay attention to M in these 6 min blind tournys.... i focus more on ...where is my stack in relation to the next guy up?

i felt i can fold on the flop if i miss and still have 1k left...only 800 down from 2nd place. ive come back from similar deficits before with blinds like this. as long as i am less then a 2 to 1 dog against the next chip stack... i feel confident.

the only thing i felt like i screwed up with this hand was that - i raised pre flop.. got called... and then my opponent leads into me on the flop

even for a big stack she is showing a lot strength there.

bleffo19 · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:07 am Post subject:

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