Online Poker Forum - Betting Basics versus Power of Position strategy delima

StrikingEagle

Did you ever the gut feeling when this is the right time to call? I was in middle position with a 5 10 off suit when a person under the gun raised about 4x the BB. I hate 5 10, usually fold, but I thought it's gotta be my turn sooner or later.

Problem was the bet was so high. Chris Lederer in Betting Basics reminded me...is this really the right price to call? Chris Ferguson Pre Flop lesson does not suggest a 5 10 played in middle position with such a large raise. Bill Edler stated in Power of Position lesson " I probably play fewer than 10 % under the gun." That would make a 5 1-0 with large raise even harder to justify in middle position when he's folding AQ under-the-gun.

The dilema is my gut is saying call I could feel it so strongly, but I did not. The pot odds were too impossible to justify calling.

I folded and would have had a 10 high straight beating out 2 sets of pocket pairs (like Queens or higher...cannot find the hand history I thought I saved).

Oh well....another way of thinking of this if the flop hand NOT been in my folded favor, I would have lost all my money on that hand...almost $4.00.

What do you folks do with gut feelings in poker? I went the safe route based on numbers. Would you do the same?

suicideblonde1 · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject:

If your gut feelings tell you to call large UTG raises in MP with random crap when you're apparently shortstacking with your entire roll, I'd say ignore your gut feelings.

cardplayer52 · Four of a Kind Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 308

or you could find out how fulltilt makes the cards random. basically the cards are shuffled till needed. they dont stop shuffing. if no one calls the raise they never would of stopped being shuffed. what i'm tring to say is if you play the hand the time the cards stopped shuffing would have been different. which intern means that the cards that came on the flop would most likely have been different. so more than likely your gut feeling was wrong. use your head. good luck.

SmellsLikeDonk · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject:

I think you're posting this only because the board cards connected so well with your folded hand, not because of your gut. If I have 72 off suit, I am folding 99.998% of the time pre flop, and it might hurt if the flop comes 777, but I'll get over it.

You can't justify your gut feeling by what happened here.

FullTiltRamble · High Card Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Posts: 5

@cardplayer52:

Just curious how you know the method that FTP randomizes their cards? It seems to me that for the security of the game, this would be kept strictly confidential?

supfool123 · Forum Fool Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 2245

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