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crtsports Two Pair
Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:22 pm Post subject: 2NL - Full House on River |
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This is my sixth hand at the table so no real reads on the villain. My main question here is should I have re-raised him on the river, instead of just calling? With his min raise and two checks, I could easily see him on KQ, QJ and a slow played FH. So I was a little cautious on re-raising him and just paying him off. Right, wrong?
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
The Official Hand History
BB: $2.00
UTG: $0.29
UTG+1: $2.21
Hero (UTG+2): $2.00
MP1: $2.21
MP2: $2.24
CO: $2.01
BTN: $1.78
SB: $2.64
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG+2 with 5 5
2 folds, Hero calls $0.02, MP1 raises to $0.04, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.02
Flop: ($0.11) Q Q K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks
Turn: ($0.11) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks
River: ($0.11) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.06, MP1 raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.06 |
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cubbies760 Drawing Dead
Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 11114 Location: Depressed
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Please raise the river. The likelihood that he would play any Q as passively as he did is very remote. A made flush on the river will pay you off. |
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bigpairde Chipluder
Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 8906
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| i hate pre |
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Riddim Moderator
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 9912 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| bigpairde wrote: |
| i hate pre |
Why? |
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bigpairde Chipluder
Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 8906
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Riddim wrote: |
| bigpairde wrote: |
| i hate pre |
Why? |
because i can't think of a single spot where i like open limping in a ring game.
if I am first to act or it is folded to me and i want to play a hand i raise in order to build a nice pot and also to not have to play against a checking BB who doesn't allow me to assign him any meaningful range (apart from the hands he would raise) |
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ohsnapzbrah Message Board Junkie
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1160 Location: someplace better than ann arbor, b*itchigan
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Agree with BP. If you open a pot, as cliche as it sounds, raise. Never limp, because then you just get stuck in awkward situations.
And please please raise the river. A Q is so rare here that you have to raise. He could have made his flush, have aces, etc. Missed value bet imo. |
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lurgertor Four of a Kind
Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 340 Location: Riskville
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| ohsnapzbrah wrote: |
Agree with BP. If you open a pot, as cliche as it sounds, raise. Never limp, because then you just get stuck in awkward situations.
And please please raise the river. A Q is so rare here that you have to raise. He could have made his flush, have aces, etc. Missed value bet imo. |
Yes but if you get 3 bet by almost anyone you'd have to fold, and I really hate having to fold a pocket pair at this level given the immense implied odds that a set would give us. I like the open limp, OTR unless you got a specific read that he would play a FH as passive as he did and not a hand like trip queens I'm raising for sure, probably with the intention of getting stacks in. |
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marsupial311 Royal Flush
Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 502
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| Limping with a low PP is incredibly standard at micros. If you hit your set on the flop, you bet out and take a lot of money from people that hit middle pair or worse and if you miss it and they bet, you can fold it away cheaply. Most micro players can't get away from a hand that hits any part of the flop so because of the limits, it's a reasonable play. |
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G Goddard Four of a Kind
Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 279
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| I make an over sized 3-bet over his raise to 50c++ and shoving isn't terrible either. In a higher stakes game I may call against a nit but this is 2NL and his range consists 90% of worse made hands that he thinks is the nuts. Most 2NL players will even look you up with a bare Q here. |
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crtsports Two Pair
Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 71
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I think everything that went through my mind has been stated here.
But I couldn't get a slow played FH off. I am fairly certain with more than six hands at the table, I would have re-raised because I would have seen his style of play. I was going into this hand with zero history and trying to make the best educated guess on what his hand could be. As for how the hand turned out, here you go! And what he turned over, was a tad surprising.
River: ($0.11) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.06, MP2 raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.06
Total pot: $0.35 | Rake: $0.02
Results:
Hero had 5 , 5 (full house, fives over Queens).
MP2 had A , K (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $0.33 |
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