Online Poker Forum - $10nl - flopping a flushy from BB

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:32 am Post subject: $10nl - flopping a flushy from BB

UTG is a 77/0/2 cash cow, BTN is 88/13/5 (only 8 hands) - but definitely been active over those 8 hands.

Flatting seems obvious, but I also feel it gives up some disguise whereas reraising can make it look like we've got a 1 card flush draw or something like a set/2p that's scared of a four-card flush turn. UTG is likely calling with at least 1d, and if so probably isn't folding to anything.

So,
-If you flat the flop, what's your turn line? (likely still 3way pot)
-If you reraise the flop, how much?

Grabbed by
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($8.81)
Hero ($10)
UTG ($2.69)
CO ($7.46)
BTN ($14.43)

Dealt to Hero T Diamond

K

UTG calls $0.10, fold, BTN raises to $0.20, fold, Hero calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.10

FLOP ($0.65) 2 Diamond

5

6

Hero bets $0.45, UTG calls $0.45, BTN raises to $1.80, Hero...

templar rage · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:20 am Post subject:

I probably flat the flop and let him fire again on the turn, since he will most likely do so all the time. If a non-diamond comes, I just shove over him, since he may convince himself you are bluffing with a draw or something and call lighter than he is already, if thats even possible.

ohsnapzbrah · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:01 am Post subject:

Min-raise BTN's raise. He can't possibly fold if he has Ad. If need be, get it all in. You've got the nuts, and he's a nut that isn't going to fold a draw, so we make him pay dearly for possibly getting the draw.

nolan6 · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:31 am Post subject:

I think you should raise as theres no more good cards for your hand, but there are bad cards, eg another diamond scares a set/2 pair/straight and possibly gives someone a better hand.

The same is true if the board pairs, you cant really fold, but unless he has a boat he is less likley to continue or chase a flush with only one card to come.

Even though raising might fold out UTG, its BTN whos stack is deep and the one we want, and tbh i cant see him not stacking off with a set/straight/overpair with Xdiamond/ pair and draw(straight, flush). So as you can see the only hand he could probably fold would be like JJ-77 with no diamond so just stack off.

adam27x · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject:

since UTG is the fish but BTN is showing the most strength, I think there's a decent chance both of them will continue even if we 3bet, which is what I'm doing. I just make it like $6.50 (some big committing raise).

G Goddard · Four of a Kind Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 279

I think 3-betting is mandatory. Either shove or make a standard re-raise to $4-5 and call a shove. BTN is raising a bet and call multi-way so hes pretty much never bluffing. A diamond is likely to either kill your action or draw to his nut flush and we don't want to be in spots like that when we're stacking him OTF so often.

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