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MattElsarelli
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: $10 45man KK OOP Reply with quote

Litterally the very first hand.
What could he be over calling with?
I dont have enough chips to c-bet/fold...So am I just shoving? c-bet/ calling? or just check folding?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - from HandHistoryConverter.com

SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (MP2) (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1500)

Hero's M: 33.33

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K
2 folds, MP1 bets t90, Hero raises to t360, 1 fold, CO calls t360, 4 folds

Flop: (t855) A, Q, 6 (2 players)
Hero????
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adam27x
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shove pre imo. (seriously)

since it's the 1st hand, you'll get called off ridiculously light.
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MattElsarelli
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adam27x wrote:
shove pre imo. (seriously)

since it's the 1st hand, you'll get called off ridiculously light.


I didn't take it sarcastically haha. Thats probably what I normally do in this spot, But I just moved up (well semi moved up. I play both still since they fill so slowly) from playing the $5 ones and for some odd reason I gave this level a tighter calling range, and wanted action.

Givin the situation though, what are you doing on this flop?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattElsarelli wrote:
adam27x wrote:
shove pre imo. (seriously)

since it's the 1st hand, you'll get called off ridiculously light.


I didn't take it sarcastically haha. Thats probably what I normally do in this spot, But I just moved up (well semi moved up. I play both still since they fill so slowly) from playing the $5 ones and for some odd reason I gave this level a tighter calling range, and wanted action.

Givin the situation though, what are you doing on this flop?


Bet/calling most likely, while looking for when the next one starts. His range has so many PPs in it versus Ax hands, that you are ahead more often than not. Bet like you own it.
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JDizzzle72
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i shove pre.
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doyle11
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dnt agree wit movin allin preflop at all ur raise pre was fine....personally i hate this spot but chances r still that u hav him beat so a continuation bet is probably in order here and a fold if he raises u...i think like a third of the pot shuld work well
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definately shove pre. But I don't see the point in betting this flop usually. If he shoves over the top we have to fold with hardly any chips left. I would prefer to preserve the remainder of my stack and check. I'd probably call a small bet OTF but other than that shut down.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea like everyone said, shove preflop if this is the first hand. Also, bet small on the flop/ fold from the raise Very Happy.
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KK or AA the first hand of a tourney, sng or the first hand at a cash table is an all-in, fo sho.
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bad_nuts
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: $10 45man KK OOP Reply with quote

MattElsarelli wrote:


Flop: (t855) A, Q, 6


This is why, this is why, this is why you shove.
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