Online Poker Forum - $10+1 razz MTT - better play on 7th?

Honest_Rob

Bet or c/c 7th? I have no reads on villain. He was just moved to this table. He uses the Schwarzenegger rugby avatar if that helps.

Full Tilt Poker Game #14518345546: $10 + $1 Tournament (106603222), Table 5 - 80/160 Ante 15 - Limit Razz - 14:33:14 ET - 2009/09/06
Seat 1: fangorn 1 (2,895)
Seat 2: brennzee (1,460)
Seat 3: Cameron V (1,975)
Seat 4: TryAngL (1,644)
Seat 5: hossah (3,726)
Seat 7: Kiselgerrard (3,029)
Seat 8: Honest_Rob (3,064)
fangorn 1 antes 15
brennzee antes 15
Cameron V antes 15
TryAngL antes 15
hossah antes 15
Kiselgerrard antes 15
Honest_Rob antes 15
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to fangorn 1 [Td]
Dealt to brennzee [4d]
Dealt to Cameron V [4c]
Dealt to TryAngL [5h]
Dealt to hossah [3s]
Dealt to Kiselgerrard [Kh]
Dealt to Honest_Rob [5c 2h] [6h]
Kiselgerrard is high with [Kh]
Kiselgerrard brings in for 25
Honest_Rob completes it to 80
fangorn 1 folds
brennzee folds
Cameron V folds
TryAngL folds
hossah has 15 seconds left to act
hossah calls 80
Kiselgerrard folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to hossah [3s] [7d]
Dealt to Honest_Rob [5c 2h 6h] [3d]
Honest_Rob bets 80
hossah calls 80
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to hossah [3s 7d] [6c]
Dealt to Honest_Rob [5c 2h 6h 3d] [9d]
hossah bets 160
Honest_Rob calls 160
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to hossah [3s 7d 6c] [7s]
Dealt to Honest_Rob [5c 2h 6h 3d 9d] [7h]
Honest_Rob bets 160
hossah calls 160
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [5c 2h 6h 3d 9d 7h] [Qh]
Honest_Rob ?

adam27x · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject:

I think I c/c here to let him bluff his busted draws. Like if the 6 paired him in the hole and he whiffed on 7th, for example. Betting and getting raised would be awful because we'd have ridiculously good odds to call when we don't beat anything. Even though we have a 7low it isn't a great 7low so there isn't a ton of value in just betting, imo.

cubbies760 · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject:

It looks like he bet 5th street because he improved and you kind of bricked, and it seems fairly likely that he may have paired his 6 because of him flatting 6th. Going into 7th, I think you have him beat, but I'd be happy with either checking it down, or check/calling. This also seems like a good spot to be able to check so that if he's folding to your bet, you wouldn't be able to see his down cards for future reference.

Basically, if he missed, you give him a chance to bluff, and if he hit, you don't have to reluctantly call his raise.

DuttyWinin · High Card Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 8

I disagree with the other posts. I say bet 7th. Even a rough 7 is usually a winner in razz. He has at best a 76xxx by 6th st. Without knowing his style, or yours, just bet your good hands. I don't think you should check, expecting a bluff because, unlike NLHE, many players simply wont bet a weak or dead hand on 7th. Now, suppose you have him beat and he is playing a 8, 9, or T... There is a good chance he wouldn't bet a hand like that but WOULD call for pot odds. Weigh that against you having to call a reraise, which he could also do with a hand you could beat. Your odds are even better to call the re-raise than his would be to call the initial bet, since there is more money in the pot. Ill take my chances calling with a made 7 on 7th st any day.

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