Online Poker Forum - .02/.05 PLO8 Flop 2ndNLDNFD

LitUp43 · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: .02/.05 PLO8 Flop 2ndNLDNFD

I'd been playing @ the table for about an hour or so. I bought in for $3.00 since there was only 1 bigger stack everyone else was shortstacked w/ >$1.50. It's 6 max and 5 of us see the flop. The guy UTG post flop for this hand just won a big pot and was probably feeling pretty good at the time. Stacks are approximate, I apologize as I don't know have the HH saved to convert it.

Hero SB ($10.20) posts $.02 Hole Cards As3sKcQc
BB ($1.20) posts $.05
Fold
UTG+1 ($6.80) calls $.05
MP ($1.00) calls $.05
BTN calls $.05
Hero Calls $.03
BB Checks

Flop ($.24) 4s 7s 10d

Hero bets $.15
BB calls $.15
UTG raises $1.20
Fold

Hero.... contemplaiting a reraise? Am I thinking that I want to get as much in here as possible as I am freerolling with this stack?

Zophar · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject:

I don't understand your comment that you're freerolling with his stack.

I typically don't lead these flops w/o the plan of jamming them. I don't think this is a good spot for that. Pair+ maybe, but the bare NFD is not ahead of enough ranges imo. With the A2 maybe. Often I'll check/call these flops and c/r a ton of different turns.

As played I'd probably flat and jam any non paired spade or 2 and check/call any non 3 low, K or Q. Basically anything that gives me some equity.

LitUp43 · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject:

"freerolling w/ this stack" meaning the profit I have on the table. I may lean towards gambling a little more with stacks if I'm up a bunch.

Okay, so flatting the raise OTF would have been optimal since I'm most likely up against a set a naked A2, or possibly both from one of the players, which would be sick. I repped a big hand, here's how I played it, if it's a horrible play, by all means let me know.

Hero reraise $3.30
BB Calls AI (Thought for about 10 secs.)
UTG Calls $2.10 (Rather quickly)

Turn (4s 7s 10d) Qh

Hero... I have like $6.70 left. Pretty sure I'm drawing against a set. Thoughts?

Zophar · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject:

I guess I just don't look at it like that re: "freerolling" with a built up stack.

Your equity against a set + NLD is awful. Against 2pr+ NLD is not good.

I'd probably jam this turn given UTG's action. He's prob jamming any set OTF and you have some solid equity vs. a bare T and NLD. Knowing Vpip/Pfr helps with these types of decisions though. i really have no idea how wide his range is.

LitUp43 · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject:

If memory serves, Doyle used it in SuperSystem the same way, and I've seen and heard it used in the same context on multiple occasions so it's not original by me lol. I'm not that creative.

Does it matter who in the hand would have a NLD and who would have the set? UTG flatting my reraise would lead me to believe he has a set w/out a good LD, my thinking is if he has a LD+set he's putting the rest of it in otf as his draw would crush all others, yes?

Zophar · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject:

LitUp43 · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the tips, actually saved me a bunch in a hand last night, I had a similar hand in a 1/2 game w/ my wife. I raised preflop last hand of the night and flopped top 2 w/ the NFD, back door LD and she bet the pot right into me so right away I felt she had a set so I called to exercise a little pot control. Turn gave me every draw I needed, 2 flush draws, low draw, and a boat draw, missed everything and she boated up.

I think at .02/.05 stakes though, people tend to let the pot get out of control because their mind set is "it's only $2", but I think you would agree that it creates bad habits that might carry over if people move up in levels. People play hands they shouldn't, don't exercise pot control or preflop discipline. I know I haven't always done it in the past, but I've definitely learned my lesson recently.

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